Prince William on Chinese TV
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...talking about the illegal trade in animal body parts.
About time too and more cajones than Cameroon, Blair, Brown et al.
Best news report for eons.
About time too and more cajones than Cameroon, Blair, Brown et al.
Best news report for eons.
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...talking about the illegal trade in animal body parts.
About time too and more cajones than Cameroon, Blair, Brown et al.
Best news report for eons.
Do you think it was done off his own bat? I'm sure that Royals don't just rock up in foreign countries to give speeches on telly without FO approval.
But I agree, good on him!0 -
mmm, another bloody chinless wonder who has too much spare time on his hands because he is not doing a real job. Off to the tower with the lot of them!0
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...talking about the illegal trade in animal body parts.
About time too and more cajones than Cameroon, Blair, Brown et al.
Best news report for eons.
So it's OK for him to preach to the chinese about not shooting endangered animals while he has merry jaunts to spain to shoot wild boar and other animals that are not on the endangered list? hypocrisy at it's finestAll lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
surely the whole point is that one is severely endangered and used for jewellery and spurious (at best) medicinal use and another is plentiful in population and shot for food?
Would you rather that all animals which were ever eaten spend their entire life on a farm?0 -
surely the whole point is that one is severely endangered and used for jewellery and spurious (at best) medicinal use and another is plentiful in population and shot for food?
Would you rather that all animals which were ever eaten spend their entire life on a farm?
You think it makes a difference to the animal what its used for after its early demise?
If this William chap is to "spearhead" the global protection of wildlife, then he has to be consistent, in both what he says and what he does.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
He says don't hunt endangered species. He doesn't hunt endangered species. Job done.
Of course it makes no difference to the animal post-death (you say demise, which is a bit of an odd term in this case) - are you a vegetarian for moral reasons? - if so I feel we'll ever agree on this.
In any case, I am of course pro-protectionism and banning illegal animal trade, but to ban shooting for food is a bit knee-jerk, don't you think (plus I think most animals shot on these types of holiday are farmed, so it would be pretty impossible to hunt them into extinction)?
The fact that he partakes in a sustainable form of hunting could make his views carry more weight as he can demonstrate that if you want to hunt - it is sustainable, but that poaching and trading in the body parts of endangered animals isn't for the benefit of the planet.0 -
He says don't hunt endangered species. He doesn't hunt endangered species. Job done.
Of course it makes no difference to the animal post-death (you say demise, which is a bit of an odd term in this case) - are you a vegetarian for moral reasons? - if so I feel we'll ever agree on this.
In any case, I am of course pro-protectionism and banning illegal animal trade, but to ban shooting for food is a bit knee-jerk, don't you think (plus I think most animals shot on these types of holiday are farmed, so it would be pretty impossible to hunt them into extinction)?
The fact that he partakes in a sustainable form of hunting could make his views carry more weight as he can demonstrate that if you want to hunt - it is sustainable, but that poaching and trading in the body parts of endangered animals isn't for the benefit of the planet.
Wild boar shooting and pheasant shoots are for fun not for food, with the added benefit of some protein at the end of it, but i'd be pretty sure he didn't carve the animal up afterwards and cook it! No different to trophy hunters in my book, I'm not against animals being killed for food i would argue that travelling a thousand miles to shoot a wild boar means he can't have been that hungry.All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
It Is enjoyable but a boar also feeds a lot of people! Sometimes they give the dead animals to the butcher to sell. More often than not you can be damn sure that he's had to carve up a few animals in his time, but I'd agree some are given away if they have a successful day. In any case it's generally good for the economy (insofar as all the people employed in the trade from groundsmen to farmers to butchers to the caterers to the accommodation etc.) and its totally sustainable (as the animals are farmed).
Whether you agree or not I suppose is a matter of principles. I don't think it is a fair comparison to draw a line between that and the illegal poaching of ivory from a highly endangered species (or furs etc etc)0 -
It Is enjoyable but a boar also feeds a lot of people! Sometimes they give the dead animals to the butcher to sell. More often than not you can be damn sure that he's had to carve up a few animals in his time, but I'd agree some are given away if they have a successful day. In any case it's generally good for the economy (insofar as all the people employed in the trade from groundsmen to farmers to butchers to the caterers to the accommodation etc.) and its totally sustainable (as the animals are farmed).
Whether you agree or not I suppose is a matter of principles. I don't think it is a fair comparison to draw a line between that and the illegal poaching of ivory from a highly endangered species (or furs etc etc)
Your comments are sound and valid. As a republican I do have an axe to grind
I'll leave it there 
All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
. . .spurious (at best) medicinal use . . .
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mmm, another bloody chinless wonder who has too much spare time on his hands because he is not doing a real job. Off to the tower with the lot of them!
It is an issue that needs to be addressed. He has a huge global profile. If people like him do not highlight the problem, who do you propose should do it? After all, if you have a proper job, you'll have no time for anything except sleep and work. The world can go to rack and ruin but you'll have a proper job.
I am not a Royalist BTW.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
...and there's more but unfortunately, he never had a proper job. It would be pointless for say Johan Museeuw or Greg Lemond to get involved in this sort of thing because they too never had proper jobs.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/former-nba-star-yao-ming-saves-millions-of-sharks-from-slaughter-154217396.htmlseanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
...and there's more but unfortunately, he never had a proper job. It would be pointless for say Johan Museeuw or Greg Lemond to get involved in this sort of thing because they too never had proper jobs.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/former-nba-star-yao-ming-saves-millions-of-sharks-from-slaughter-154217396.html
Hmm.. I can see why his words would have an effect on the Chinese, William chap on the other hand preaching to the Chinese, I can imagine the response...All lies and jest..still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest....0 -
...and there's more but unfortunately, he never had a proper job. It would be pointless for say Johan Museeuw or Greg Lemond to get involved in this sort of thing because they too never had proper jobs.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/good-news/former-nba-star-yao-ming-saves-millions-of-sharks-from-slaughter-154217396.html
Hmm.. I can see why his words would have an effect on the Chinese, William chap on the other hand preaching to the Chinese, I can imagine the response...
Some of the Chinese are obsessed with the Royals and if Prince William serves as a vessel to get the Chinese populace educated about poaching and the effect it is having, then so what?
Better than Prince Andrew securing arms deal in the middle east?seanoconn - gruagach craic!0 -
To add. politicians are tied to whatever trade deals and 'reciprocal arrangements' and loyalty to vested interest, however hypocritical that may be. Stars (in whatever guise) can have much better impact. The fact that he has been allowed to talk about it on mainstream TV, is something in itself.
If the population of China become much more aware of the environment and exploitation of species, it would have an immeasurable effect.seanoconn - gruagach craic!0
