Boardman BB30 Issues
shooter999
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Just coming back from a lovely spin round the coast and for the last mile or so I could hear creaking coming from the pedal area.
My 1st concern was that the carbon frame was damaged, but on reading up, it seems that it is a common issue with BB30 on Boardman bikes. The bike is a 2014 Boardman Road Carbon.
I could take it to Halfords (the bike is out of warranty) who might fix it only for it to go again in the near future.
'm not very mechanically minded so was wondering is it possible to change my BB for another model e.g. Shimano Hollowtech?
I've seen this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fsa-bb30-conversion-kit/ , but not sure if its appropriate or what else I should buy with it!
If it is possible, id appreciate any and all recommendations to ensure that I don't have any future BB issues.
My 1st concern was that the carbon frame was damaged, but on reading up, it seems that it is a common issue with BB30 on Boardman bikes. The bike is a 2014 Boardman Road Carbon.
I could take it to Halfords (the bike is out of warranty) who might fix it only for it to go again in the near future.
'm not very mechanically minded so was wondering is it possible to change my BB for another model e.g. Shimano Hollowtech?
I've seen this: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fsa-bb30-conversion-kit/ , but not sure if its appropriate or what else I should buy with it!
If it is possible, id appreciate any and all recommendations to ensure that I don't have any future BB issues.
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I have just fitted an FSA adapter and a hollowtech chainset to my bike from BB30.
It has cured the cursed creak. If you want to do the same I would recommend you get a LBS to do it and not Halfords. Also be sure this is what you want as there is no going back. It is possible to remove the adapter but its not an easy task. There are other options like the praxis adapter which gets high praise but at a higher cost. That said, I think the FSA does the job well enough.0 -
I have just fitted an FSA adapter and a hollowtech chainset to my bike from BB30.
It has cured the cursed creak. If you want to do the same I would recommend you get a LBS to do it and not Halfords. Also be sure this is what you want as there is no going back. It is possible to remove the adapter but its not an easy task. There are other options like the praxis adapter which gets high praise but at a higher cost. That said, I think the FSA does the job well enough.
Thanks for the reply. Is the FSA adapter the same as the one I linked to from wiggle? What hollowtech did you go for?0 -
I used the same FSA bb30 to 68mm adapter
I also used a shimano hollowtech bb with an Ultegra Hollowtech II chainset.
This was really only cos I managed to get one for €75 from Rose Bikes.
So far the bike has been flawless. So much quieter and I feel more happy to really push hard knowing I wont get any creaking0 -
I used the same FSA bb30 to 68mm adapter
I also used a shimano hollowtech bb with an Ultegra Hollowtech II chainset.
This was really only cos I managed to get one for €75 from Rose Bikes.
So far the bike has been flawless. So much quieter and I feel more happy to really push hard knowing I wont get any creaking
Thanks for the info. Because I'm a complete numpty at these things I need to buy:
1. The Adapter
2. A shimano BB. Does it matter which one I go for?
3. A 10sp Shimano chain set? Again does it matter which one I go for e.g. tiagra, 105, ultegra as long as it's a 10 speed, which is what is on my bike at the moment?
If I go for the praxis adapter' do I still need a shimano BB to go with it?
Thanks once again.0 -
If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
If you are intending on changing to run a Shimano chainset then you either have adapters that use the existing fitting and reduce the size or that replace the existing fittings - at this point you need to know if you have a BB30 or a PF30 - the newer Boardmans have a PF300 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19722352#p19722352]Penguin of Death[/url] wrote:If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
If you are intending on changing to run a Shimano chainset then you either have adapters that use the existing fitting and reduce the size or that replace the existing fittings - at this point you need to know if you have a BB30 or a PF30 - the newer Boardmans have a PF30
Thanks for the information, its really appreciated. On checking the Boardman website it seems that I do have a PF30.
I wouldnt mind trying to remove and clean (it will help me understand my bike a bit more), do I need special tools and can I use any bike grease??0 -
I have just been through a similar scenario.
I think from memory the bottom bracket is 68mm wide. The BB30 is 40mm in overall diameter and the PF30 is 46mm in diameter, you therefore need to check what diameter bearings you have in the bottom bracket.
The FSA adaptors will all accept Shimano bearings and they are cheap and well made.
I had the added complication that my Specialized Venge has a bottom bracket that is only 62mm wide so could not use the FSA adaptors. I opted for the Praxis unit which is again 68 mm wide but comes with additional spacers to fill the 3mm gap either side of the bottom bracket thus allowing the fitting of a Shimano Hollowtech crankset.
I am not sure what happens when the Praxis bearings fail, as I am not sure whether I can fit Praxis or Shimano bearings. Perhaps some one on here can advise.
The Praxis unit seems well made can be reversed if needed and at present runs silky smooth....just what you want in a bottom bracket.
Hope this helps.0 -
The creaking may not be coming from the BB. Have you checked the chain ring bolts, crank bolts, pedal stuff?
After I got a new Cannondale, then afterwards reading many many posts about BB30 problems, then getting a clicking sound just a 100 miles or so from new which was coming from, I was sure, the BB, I immediately thought oh no the dreaded BB30 problem. Turned out to be something loose on one of my pedals, the one thing Cannondale didn't supply.0 -
Thanks for all replies. The more I read, the more confused I get!!
Can I change my BB for a Shimano Ultegra BB and keep my existing chainset? My Bike has the following:
Chainset FSA Gossamer Compact 50/34t - PF30
Bottom Bracket - FSA PF30
Once again, thanks for all replies0 -
As stated in another thread, it's strongly implied that you can replace the bearings in a Praxis Works adapter - just don't expect Praxis to apply their warranty to your workmanship.
There are various adapters available to allow you to fit a Shimano Hollowtech crankset to a bike with a BB30 or PF30 bottom bracket, and there are also several options for keeping your old BB30 crankset but using a bottom bracket unit that screws together in the middle and so eliminates the dreaded creaking. KCNC, Wheels Manufacturing and Praxis Works are just a couple of them.Specialized Roubaix Elite 2015
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As stated in another thread, it's strongly implied that you can replace the bearings in a Praxis Works adapter - just don't expect Praxis to apply their warranty to your workmanship.
There are various adapters available to allow you to fit a Shimano Hollowtech crankset to a bike with a BB30 or PF30 bottom bracket, and there are also several options for keeping your old BB30 crankset but using a bottom bracket unit that screws together in the middle and so eliminates the dreaded creaking. KCNC, Wheels Manufacturing and Praxis Works are just a couple of them.
Thanks for the reply. I'm after some advice on whether or not I can replace the FSA PF30 with an Ultegra BB and keep the the existing chainset i.e. FSA Gossamer compact.0 -
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Thanks for the reply. I'm after some advice on whether or not I can replace the FSA PF30 with an Ultegra BB and keep the the existing chainset i.e. FSA Gossamer compact.[/quote]
No. The Gossamer compact uses a 30mm dia. axle spindle that matches the PF30 BB. Shimano HT II BB's are designed to be used with the HT II 24mm dia. axle spindle. The PF30 BB is not removable to service the bearings. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/#article-section-1
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/
As already mentioned it you want to switch to Shimano HT II cranks, you will need one of the adaptors suggested previously. http://wheelsmfg.com/bb-pf30-universal-adapter-for-24mm-spindle-cranks-shimano-fsa-etc.html
https://www.praxiscycles.com/conversion-bb/0 -
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Thanks for the reply. I'm after some advice on whether or not I can replace the FSA PF30 with an Ultegra BB and keep the the existing chainset i.e. FSA Gossamer compact.
No. The Gossamer compact uses a 30mm dia. axle spindle that matches the PF30 BB. Shimano HT II BB's are designed to be used with the HT II 24mm dia. axle spindle. The PF30 BB is not removable to service the bearings. http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/#article-section-1
http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/
As already mentioned it you want to switch to Shimano HT II cranks, you will need one of the adaptors suggested previously. http://wheelsmfg.com/bb-pf30-universal-adapter-for-24mm-spindle-cranks-shimano-fsa-etc.html
https://www.praxiscycles.com/conversion-bb/[/quote]
Thanks, that's exactly the information I was after. I now know what I can and can't do.
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19722352#p19722352]Penguin of Death[/url] wrote:If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
Yep, Just done this with my Boardman which was creaking like mad. Silent now.
Didn't need to spend any money.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19722352#p19722352]Penguin of Death[/url] wrote:If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
Yep, Just done this with my Boardman which was creaking like mad. Silent now.
Didn't need to spend any money.
Cheers, think I'll give it a go.
Just had a look at the chainset and noe of my Alan keys fit it, can you let me know what size I need so that I can order one?0 -
10mm Allen key, it's a self extracting bolt so just undo it and it'll pop the left hand crank out. Then you can pull the driveside out - keep an eye on any bearing covers/washers so they go back in the correct order.
Clean it, grease it, reassemble, preferably bolt it back together with a torque wrench with a 10mm bit.
As above, if this doesn't work you have a few options:
new bearings of the same type - SRAM BB30 and PF30 have good reputations
alternate bearings - some kind of adapter and a new chainset0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19722352#p19722352]Penguin of Death[/url] wrote:If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
Yep, Just done this with my Boardman which was creaking like mad. Silent now.
Didn't need to spend any money.
New round these parts, however I did exact same thing.
Strip crank out, clean up as best you can, pack with grease, reassemble....voila!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19722352#p19722352]Penguin of Death[/url] wrote:If you're mechanically minded then the first thing is to remove the chainset, clean the crap that has accumulated on the bearings and axel, add a bit of grease and put it all back together - most of the time this will sove it
Yep, Just done this with my Boardman which was creaking like mad. Silent now.
Didn't need to spend any money.
New round these parts, however I did exact same thing.
Strip crank out, clean up as best you can, pack with grease, reassemble....voila!
This works but sometimes after constantly stripping and reassembling every other week you have to look at other options. After 3 bearing changes in six months I decided to just fit an adapter and no more noise.0 -
Yup. I'm running an FSA Gossamer crankset on BB30 and have to re grease every 500 odd miles to stop it creaking. I've just bought a 105 chainset and that FSA adapter to (hopefully) and cure it permanently.0
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Clean re-grease and re-torque before spending a penny. Worked for me!
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