Interesting Strava Stats

Anonymous

Got this email today, showing commuters etc.

I know its in the Strava thread, but they are mostly talking about which browser to view it in. And some plonker is talking about miles when the Strava article is in KM

Most interestingly, against what most have said on here, are the distances of the average commute, specifically in relation to segregated cycle lanes.

15KM in London compared to 26km in Amsterdam, 27km in Barcelona and 32km in Milan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/get-inspired/34455778

http://insights.strava.com/en-us/worldwide/?unit=imperial&activity=ride

surrey_commuter

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718520#p19718520]coriordan[/url] wrote:

Got this email today, showing commuters etc.

I know its in the Strava thread, but they are mostly talking about which browser to view it in. And some plonker is talking about miles when the Strava article is in KM

Most interestingly, against what most have said on here, are the distances of the average commute, specifically in relation to segregated cycle lanes.

15KM in London compared to 26km in Amsterdam, 27km in Barcelona and 32km in Milan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/get-inspired/34455778

http://insights.strava.com/en-us/worldwide/?unit=imperial&activity=ride

I am that plonker!!! (think Spartacus). In my defence the Strava link you posted above includes the word "imperial" and next to the London numbers uses the abbreviation mi/h for speed, mi for distance and ft for elevation. This could be seen as confusing... or to not refer to metric measurements

adambruntlett

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718520#p19718520]coriordan[/url] wrote:

Got this email today, showing commuters etc.

I know its in the Strava thread, but they are mostly talking about which browser to view it in. And some plonker is talking about miles when the Strava article is in KM

Most interestingly, against what most have said on here, are the distances of the average commute, specifically in relation to segregated cycle lanes.

15KM in London compared to 26km in Amsterdam, 27km in Barcelona and 32km in Milan.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/get-inspired/34455778


http://insights.strava.com/en-us/worldwide/?unit=imperial&activity=ride

Interestingly I have seen a lot of anti-cycling posts on various articles about the Mini Holland scheme in Waltham Forest (a project to improve cycling infrastructure) saying that Amsterdam and other dutch cities aren't as big as London so the commutes are shorter and more practical, and that London is too big for anyone to consider cycling from one side to another.

iPete

I would hesitate to guess that few commuters in Amsterdam record their ride to work, or to the shops or other mundane rides. With the higher average mileage coming from fitness riders(?).

Anonymous

Adam - my point exactly. If the average is 25k in holland then London with a measly 16K and "faster" roads is the exception. Haven't read about speeds though.

Also - just thinking that my strava doesn't auto save my rides as commutes and I sure as hell cba to change them each time....wonder how many are the same

rower63

It would be interesting too to see the distribution rather than just the average. Given that Strava is entirely data-driven, it's disappointing you don't get the wealth of data and analyses that, say, Google Analytics provides. It feels dumbed-down.

iPete

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718575#p19718575]coriordan[/url] wrote:

Also - just thinking that my strava doesn't auto save my rides as commutes and I sure as hell cba to change them each time....wonder how many are the same

Nothing to do with ticking the commute button, BBC said..

journeys within the morning and evening rush-hour windows

meanredspider

Yes - Lies, damn lies etc

I would think the average commute in Amsterdam is about 4-5km. I'm a Strava user but don't bother to record my commutes here. This then distorts the other figures like average speed too because the further you go, the more committed cyclist you are likely to be. Not only that but you don't need to go far outside Amsterdam before it's quite rural and open but also with dedicated cycle lanes. I wouldn't pay too much attention to it myself

Anonymous

Rower - I agree. Length of ride and time of day and weekday or weekend. I would imagine it wouldn't be a normal distribution, more likely have a positive skew due to more shorter journeys, particularly at commuting times (notwithstanding those who go for a longer ride before/after work).

Maybe they can trace if the start end point is the usual (home to other place/ other place->home) each morning/evening as opposed to home -> home, it can be treated as a commute.

Anonymous

MRS - Im sure my early-teens cousins ride 12K to school and back every day come rain shine hell or high water.

meanredspider

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718584#p19718584]coriordan[/url] wrote:

MRS - Im sure my early-teens cousins ride 12K to school and back every day come rain shine hell or high water.

In Amsterdam? Why would they go to a school so far away?

Anonymous

Maybe Vucht actually.

meanredspider

Yeah - I see plenty of Dutch kids in peletons in the countryside when I'm on the train the days I go to Eindhoven.

hamish_mctavish

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718520#p19718520]coriordan[/url] wrote:

I know its in the Strava thread, but they are mostly talking about which browser to view it in. And some plonker is talking about miles when the Strava article is in KM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/get-inspired/34455778

http://insights.strava.com/en-us/worldwide/?unit=imperial&activity=ride

I think the main confusion arises because the article on the BBC website is referring to the figures on the Strava Insights link which are in imperial rather than the specific commuting figures (in metric) which are embedded in the article.
For example the article states, those in Milan cycle the furthest (33.7 miles) which is the correct figure on the Strava site for all cycling whilst the table above says Milan 31.9 (km) which is the correct figure for Milan commuting. All the average speeds quoted in the article are in mph but are for all cycling and not just commuting...

jds_1981

I presume the figures to be total commute - there and back. Even so, Amsterdam at 8.5 miles, that's about the diameter of it anyway? Unless there are loads of people coming from other towns I find the figures hard to believe.

ugo.santalucia

[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19718573#p19718573]iPete[/url] wrote:

I would hesitate to guess that few commuters in Amsterdam record their ride to work, or to the shops or other mundane rides. With the higher average mileage coming from fitness riders(?).

This.

Strava is a roadie obsession and commuters in London are mainly roadies... I lived in Amsterdam for two years and hardly spotted anyone commuting in lycra... those who do are probably hard core fanatics who rack up hundreds of MILES per week. The majority do shorter trips with work clothes and a dutch bike with back pedal brakes