my new bug bear
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OK I am getting sick of cyclist going up the inside of cars / lorries turning left off a main road - the cars are indicating and still the cyclist overtakes up the inside! Thank god the car drivers have the sense to look and wait.
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
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OK I am getting sick of cyclist going up the inside of cars / lorries turning left off a main road - the cars are indicating and still the cyclist overtakes up the inside! Thank god the car drivers have the sense to look and wait.
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
Which cyclist is it? I think you should name and shame. Or just leave him to his Darwin Award.0 -
I'm getting sick and tired of quarry lorries giving me 1 feet of space whilst overtaking. 4 yesterday on my commuteMy blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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I'm getting sick and tired of quarry lorries giving me 1 feet of space whilst overtaking. 4 yesterday on my commute
There is a quarry about half a mile from my house (my house is nicer than I make it sound!) so this also happens to me a lot!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
I'm getting sick and tired of quarry lorries giving me 1 feet of space whilst overtaking. 4 yesterday on my commute
There is a quarry about half a mile from my house (my house is nicer than I make it sound!) so this also happens to me a lot!
When I had a couple of years driving artics (posh curtain siders/containers with the occasional roping and sheeting job), tipper drivers were always looked on as the lowest of the low by those I worked alongside due to how many of them were out there with no licence or were pulling the fuse on their tacho. With the bonus scheme structure on tippers, they had to get from A to B as quick as they could and do as many drops as possible to make their money.I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.0 -
I'm sick and tired of cyclists moaning about other road users. Just ride your bloody bike and if you don't get knocked off you've got nothing to moan about.0
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I'm sick and tired of cyclists moaning about other road users.
intentional irony?Just ride your bloody bike and if you don't get knocked off you've got nothing to moan about.
Not recently (touch wood) but i have been knocked off my bike on more than one occasion!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
OK I am getting sick of cyclist going up the inside of cars / lorries turning left off a main road - the cars are indicating and still the cyclist overtakes up the inside! Thank god the car drivers have the sense to look and wait.
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
The numbers of cyclists killed doing this (or anything dodgy/illegal) is massively outnumbered by motorists killing cyclists while doing something dodgy / illegal.
Not defending them, but they only put themselves in danger when they do it (and are probably ignorant of the danger) yet when motorists do something dangerous it's other people who's lives they put at risk - big difference.
But yeah, it's does leave me open mouthed on the rare occasion I see it..0 -
OK I am getting sick of cyclist going up the inside of cars / lorries turning left off a main road - the cars are indicating and still the cyclist overtakes up the inside! Thank god the car drivers have the sense to look and wait.
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
Oh precious! I'd sell your bike if I was you. Best not to risk it eh xOne plays football, tennis or golf, one does not play at cycling0 -
Just ride your bike and as long as others aren't affecting your ride, ignore them. Your stress levels will thank you for it.0
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I ignore many things without getting stressed, and having ridden for 10 years or so I don't think I'll give it up if it's OK with some of you.
But this is truly dangerous not only for them but also because they pi$$ of drivers who then treat the rest of us worse as a result. I am no angel but this is just so pathetically dumb it beggars belief - and I posted about it as I have seen it very often recently (and by that I mean almost daily).0 -
I've always seen it as a single word: Bugbear. I may be behind the times as language evolves around me, but I prefer to imagine that I am right and everyone else is wrong.
But to the main topic: I'm in my early fifties and have been a keen cyclist since childhood. I see far more 'it's my passion' cyclists these days, but rather fewer (by proportion) who ride as a sensible means of getting from A to B.
Lots of Garmin, carbon, lycra and bidons, but club membership seems to be stagnant or falling - and those who are members get ever older.
There seem to be more cyclists these days who do not drive. It may therefore seem that there are more (or a higher proportion) who seem blissfully unaware of the limited view and comparatively eccentric cornering line of buses and HGVs.
When I see (and I often do) a cyclist going up the neaeside of an HGV at a junction, I tend to think it is relative novice, like a pheasant walking on the fast lane, someone who has yet to be run down and killed in an expensive first lesson. Many pheasants survive. I do not intervene with pheasants and have yet to do so with cyclists who are being brave or unwise. One sees Youtube footage of headcammers yelling warnings and lecturing naive cyclists, but I suspect that is more to serve their own ego than to save the planet.
And... I still ride up the nearside of traffic. I do so with my ears and eyes open, but I still do it. Each traffic line presents a new set of choices... and sometimes that choice might be to go up the nearside...
But it is best to do so in the knowledge that you are out of sight and almost certainly out of mind to many other road users. It is not a bugbear, whether I see it as a motorist, cyclist or pedestrian. It is a part of the rich tapestry. I take a Darwinian view on traffic safety.0 -
And... I still ride up the nearside of traffic. I do so with my ears and eyes open, but I still do it. Each traffic line presents a new set of choices... and sometimes that choice might be to go up the nearside...
When the traffic is indicating to turn left already though surely puts you higher up the Darwin nomination list
"Arran, you are like the Tony Benn of smut. You have never diluted your depravity and always stand by your beliefs. You have my respect sir and your wife my pity"
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And... I still ride up the nearside of traffic. I do so with my ears and eyes open, but I still do it. Each traffic line presents a new set of choices... and sometimes that choice might be to go up the nearside...
When the traffic is indicating to turn left already though surely puts you higher up the Darwin nomination list
Yes. But, as he says, it depends on the choices at the given time.
On my commute I take the left in one single place. Always on the way home. End of a dual carriageway section. Constant jam. With about 10-20 cars to go (where I turn left at the roundabout) I go up the inside. Some are signalling. All are stationary. I keep my eyes open. If the ones at the front are signalling when the roundabout is clearing, take care. Hug the kerb as well. Minimise the risk. It's a choice I make because, otherwise, I'd have to slot in 10-20 cars back and annoy someone behind me.My blog: http://www.roubaixcycling.cc (kit reviews and other musings)
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And... I still ride up the nearside of traffic. I do so with my ears and eyes open, but I still do it. Each traffic line presents a new set of choices... and sometimes that choice might be to go up the nearside...
When the traffic is indicating to turn left already though surely puts you higher up the Darwin nomination list
Yes. But, as he says, it depends on the choices at the given time.
On my commute I take the left in one single place. Always on the way home. End of a dual carriageway section. Constant jam. With about 10-20 cars to go (where I turn left at the roundabout) I go up the inside. Some are signalling. All are stationary. I keep my eyes open. If the ones at the front are signalling when the roundabout is clearing, take care. Hug the kerb as well. Minimise the risk. It's a choice I make because, otherwise, I'd have to slot in 10-20 cars back and annoy someone behind me.
I just overtake on the right. But anyway I am not talking about when the traffic is stationary - that I agree gives variable situations and answers.
I am talking about in moving traffic (not heavy traffic) and a car indicates to go left and then a bike who can be anything up to 10 meters behinds rushes up to undertake. It is crazy - no I don't comment to them but I really wince as I feel certain I am going to witness and serious if not fatal accident. The truth of the matter is the cyclists are only unhurt because the drivers have taken the time to be cautious and wait.0 -
OK I am getting sick of cyclist going up the inside of cars / lorries turning left off a main road - the cars are indicating and still the cyclist overtakes up the inside! Thank god the car drivers have the sense to look and wait.
OK rant over :-) but how many cyclists get killed each year like this?
Surely it's okay if you're wearing a helmet though?"You really think you can burn off sugar with exercise?" downhill paul0 -
How do you know really know that to be true?But this is truly dangerous not only for them but also because they pi$$ of drivers who then treat the rest of us worse as a result.
:roll:I am no angel ...0
