KMC Missing Link
Antm81
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Anybody had trouble fitting these when new? Particularly the 11 speed version.
Never had an issue fitting these before having used both 9 speed and 10 speed versions, just the usual hassle removing them by hand.
Fitted my new 11 speed chain today (this one http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/kmc-x11-93-11-speed-chain/rp-prod132779 ) and the link that came with it I can't get to lock, it on slides about half way. Not ridden on it yet but on the stand its this is causing it to jump off the chaining.
Fitted a 9 speed one I had lying around for now so I could index the rear mech but anybody had this problem and what did you do to sort it?
Never had an issue fitting these before having used both 9 speed and 10 speed versions, just the usual hassle removing them by hand.
Fitted my new 11 speed chain today (this one http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/kmc-x11-93-11-speed-chain/rp-prod132779 ) and the link that came with it I can't get to lock, it on slides about half way. Not ridden on it yet but on the stand its this is causing it to jump off the chaining.
Fitted a 9 speed one I had lying around for now so I could index the rear mech but anybody had this problem and what did you do to sort it?
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Just fit it as far as you can and step on a pedal. That will pull it all the way.I don't do smileys.
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Just fit it as far as you can and step on a pedal. That will pull it all the way.
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hold the rear brake and press on the pedal. i did however buy a pair of BBB dual purpose link pliers though as the bugger will be impossible to separate without them and this version allows you to connect it without the stamping business:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/bbb-open-link-closing-link-tool-btl77/rp-prod47439?_requestid=2696401
the website states that the link can only be used once so if you bear that in mind, the pliers may be superfluous anyway.0 -
My understanding is that it's once per life of a given chain, as in it will wear with the chain, so you can use for example one brand new link with one brand new chain, and refit the link as much as you want but if you put a new chain on, then a new link is also needed?
So putting old links on new chain is not recommended, but if they both wear together, in a natural chain life, you can split the link as many times as you want for maintenance?0 -
Some are single use, some aren't.I don't do smileys.
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Ah yes, sorry I do think I recall the 11 speed ones are fit once, and once only.. then buy a new one.. Not reusable at all. Maybe something to do with how lightly 11 speed chains need to be built?0
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SRAM are once only, KMC offer both.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0
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The KMC ones for 10 speed used to say use once as well, then as it was well proven in the field not to fail after enogh uses to last the chain life, the recomendation changed.
Dura-ace chains are made by KNC and the short lived early version of the 10 speed chain also came with a quicklink, but was discontinued when people started reusing it and there were some failurers in the form of chains making ticking noises, so they went back to the original and current pin system.
The 11 speed versions are certainly much tighter to fit and if fitted a second time are nowhere near as tight, but many do reuse them and so do I.
I' ve seen no failures yet, but with all the ramps and shaping theses days, you never know there may well be a failure mode that is rare and catastrophic, so re-use at your own discretion.0 -
Cheers guys, got it sorted now thanks to your advice, also bought the pliers sheepsteeth recommended to save the hassle in the future.0
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You can actually do it with a set of mole grips. Flick the chain up so you can get to either corner of the quick link and set the grips to push the opposing corners (opening, not closing) and it pops open.0
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Only thing if you're doing the 'stand on the pedal' thing is to ensure the link is in the top run of the chain. You'd be amazed how many people put it between the chainring and rear mech, then can't work out why standing on the pedal does nothing.
FWIW I've broken several Missing Links/Power Links over the years, which considering they comrprise less than 1% of a chain is hugely disproportionate, but they do make life easier, so I'll keep using them.0 -
I would have hoped that would be obvious, but...
I've never broken a missing link, but have snapped chains.I don't do smileys.
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You've been around long enough to know better than that.I would have hoped that would be obvious, but...0 -
You've been around long enough to know better than that.I would have hoped that would be obvious, but...
I feel rather insulted, although BITD we did make chains out of slivers of dinosaur bones.I don't do smileys.
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Parktools0 -
Not sure which of us is older. I too should know better, I'm often amazed at how stupid punters are, I have often advised them to take their cars to someone that knows what they are doing. For some reason they feel insulted by that.
You've been around long enough to know better than that.I would have hoped that would be obvious, but...
I feel rather insulted, although BITD we did make chains out of slivers or dinosaur bones.0 -
CD is well over 50, you're not.0
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I was trying to help the old man feel better about himself.CD is well over 50, you're not.0
