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It does sound almost unbelievable to me = as I've never seen it - but I'm not such an easy target as the OP,
And there were people talking about getting abuse on a sportif the other week. Some kind of name calling ?
I guess now that there are more people cycling - it's inevitable that some cockwombles will be amongst them.
As she said it happened - I can't prove it didn't and it is certainly possible that it did. To say she's lying with no evidence of it makes you look a bit silly.0 -
I think this incident is a disgrace and i feel for the poor victim.
Things like this really wind me up, this case is especially bad as the abuse came from fellow cyclists!
No-one has the right to criticise anothers appearance, no matter what.0 -
I'm of the opinion that it's complete fiction.0
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Whilst I am in no way condoning the insults it sounds like she has deep rooted issues, someone makes a bad remark and she cries all the way home and is considering not cycling other than to and from work as a result? is that normal behaviour?
but there was no need for the comment, but i have been called much worse in many different situations.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
There is no way to know if it is true or not but there are people out there who do use abuse against easy targets. That abuse can happen to people who may be more fragile about it. If you feel this is not true so be it, your opinion. However it has got people discussing abuse which is positive.
If you have the ability to chase after a fitter cyclist to give them hell over a comment you heard then that is good. If not then perhaps the only way to vent and get over it is to put it into your cycling blog. You have your way she has her's, Which is better?
I have a thick skin and have had abuse before but it hasn't bothered me that much. You too may have even been called worse but that is you and not everyone, There are people out there who are more fragile than you who perhaps abuse has more of a negative effect. The fact both abuse is just as bad (against you who can cope with it and someone who can not) the effect is worse in the case of a more fragile or sensitive person. I work with someone who reacts to negative comments with tears. The comments can be as mundane as she is doing something wrong and it will set her off. BTW this has nothing to do with her gender but something that is part of her that she is oversensitive sometimes. Give mild abuse to someone like that and the effect will be tears before bedtime. Just the way things are.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682955#p19682955]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682772#p19682772]Hamish McTavish[/url] wrote:
So... fat person exercising = abuse is out of order; fat person not obviously exercising = abuse is acceptable and even to be encouraged?[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682705#p19682705]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:I don't particularly object to abuse of fat people - 99/100 it's self-inflicted and its only right that such a condition should not be recognised as the norm. But when a fat person is actively doing something to put it right, abuse is definitely out of order.
Sometimes I despair...
I don't see why not - I really hate the way that fat is becoming the new norm these days, or at least being seen as some sort of disability.It isn't, and it's (usually) their decision, or within their control, to get like that.
That said, unfortunately I've been brought up too well to even comment on it, never mind abuse them. '
Oh, really.....? :roll:
You, of course are perfect in every way and totally beyond reproach.0 -
Personally insulting someone in this way is incomprehensible to me. To do so and then speed off seems particularly cowardly. However, I am unsure why people are surprised this sort of thing should come from people who happen to be riding a bike. There are a**eholes in life, there is no mysterious process which prevents them from riding bicycles.0
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I personally am surprised because I have only been riding just under 2 years, but every single person on a bike I have stopped next to at lights, or spoken to when stopped, no matter age or how serious they appear to be, has been nothing but friendly and chatty. Just having a hobby in common in most walks of life means people are receptive to each other.
Hurling abuse for no reason is the bit I can't understand. Even if they were stuck behind you and wanted to go past but couldn't because of traffic - whilst not an excuse for name calling - I could understand. But just shouting abuse and name calling for nothing I find hard to believe.
Either way, she clearly has a complex about her weight and wants some attention and sympathy, which she has achieved now I guess.0 -
True - having participated in other sports I've found it's not usual to be abused by someone else participating in the same sport - unless you or they are racing and you're in the way ... then it's heat of the moment thing ...However, I am unsure why people are surprised this sort of thing should come from people who happen to be riding a bike. There are a**eholes in life, there is no mysterious process which prevents them from riding bicycles.
Other than "abuse" from my club mates - which is meant (and taken) with as much seriousness as the results from village sign sprints - I don't recall having abuse from other riders - quite the opposite usually - whether commuting or out riding the worse I get is blanked (did they see me? - does it matter?) and one of the best I've had is an invite to join in with their ride ...
Why am I different to any other rider? why don't I get abuse? Because I don't look fat? Because I'm not (that) slow? Perhaps they're worried that they can't hurl abuse and leave me standing - perhaps they're worried that I would catch them up ...
Whether this story is true or not - it is a fact that there is an element of bullying within cycling - we shouldn't tollerate it.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682955#p19682955]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682772#p19682772]Hamish McTavish[/url] wrote:
So... fat person exercising = abuse is out of order; fat person not obviously exercising = abuse is acceptable and even to be encouraged?[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19682705#p19682705]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:I don't particularly object to abuse of fat people - 99/100 it's self-inflicted and its only right that such a condition should not be recognised as the norm. But when a fat person is actively doing something to put it right, abuse is definitely out of order.
Sometimes I despair...
I don't see why not - I really hate the way that fat is becoming the new norm these days, or at least being seen as some sort of disability.It isn't, and it's (usually) their decision, or within their control, to get like that.
That said, unfortunately I've been brought up too well to even comment on it, never mind abuse them. '
Oh, really.....? :roll:
You, of course are perfect in every way and totally beyond reproach.
I was considering whether or not to call you a pr1ck for your sarcasm, but like I say, too well brought up so I wont.Job: Job, n,. A frustratingly long period of time separating two shorter than usual training rides0 -
Call what you like - you have no proof eitherway ...I call BS.
It's not as though we're campaigning for a law to be passed - we're just discussing the (non?) issue - that in itself does no harm - if you don't believe it, then fine ...
I would say to you that if you've never been on the receiving end of unsolicited abuse then you're lucky - I have (not just as a cyclist) and many people I know have - most of it seems to be just kids trying to be big and clever ... and normally when they're in a group - any situation where they don't feel vunerable ... just a bully really.
^^ this totally, I cant believe people are actually questioning whether this happened, maybe its because blokes rarely encounter it, its certainly something that happens more to women riders both to me and my friends,Ive certainly been on the receiving end of the same kind of abuse Elz had and its always "you fat b***h", and one of my friends was abused by two different cyclists on a sportive this year and she only did the 35 mile route!!, just because she was stopping and walking the climbs, even (though that still wouldnt excuse it) though she wasnt remotely in their way or causing a problem by doing that. which has literally put her off cycling for good as a result. I mean why would you bother cycling if people are just going to behave like that towards you ?
so I can assure you it happens, not saying its a regular thing at all, maybe 1 in every 100 rides or so,but its not nice when it happens, and yes it pushes your emotions to the limit sometimes,catch me on a particularly bad day and Im not ashamed to admit it has reduced me to tears sometimes. certainly when I read that blog, I thought crikey that sums up perfectly what its like.
and its not because Im insecure about my weight,my bmi hovers around 25, so yes at the top end of overweight/healthy fwiw, but Im not a size 0 and never will be, I just dont particularly like total strangers coming past me and giving me abuse,
I kind of like to hope most people dont particularly like that kind of thing either.0 -
It's just amazing that some of you think this is made up. Wow.__________________________________________
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I'm in two minds as to whether this being discussed is a good thing, on the one hand it highlights there are t0ssers out there (us talking about it is unlikely to change that) but a prospective cyclist who wants to get into it to shed a few pounds may be put off cycling reading this.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
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I'm 35 and got into riding when I was 28.
I'm 5ft 7" tall and currently weigh about 156 lbs (just over 11 stone) and I do a fair bit of weight training so I'm slimmer than my weight alone would suggest.
When I started cycling I'd gone 16+ years doing no exercise at all and weighed 15+ stone. I couldn't ride up even a small hill without stopping multiple times. The effort made me fell ill and was painful.
In all the time I've been riding; from back when I was pretty fat through to now, I've never had any random cyclist shout weight related abuse at me (riding both mountain bike and road bike).
Back then; if I'd had abuse hurled at me, I reckon it could have easily put me off.
But... I'm a guy.
It's fucking horrible that this is happening to people. No one should be victimised by verbal abuse, weight related or otherwise but it's especially horrible when it is weight related and it's someone who is clearly making an effort to improve their fitness.
And the feeling that from my own personal experience, this is something that happens to women more than men (and likely perpetrated BY men) just makes it all the worse.Canyon Spectral AL 9.0 EX
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It's just amazing that some of you think this is made up. Wow.
I think because its so far removed from any experiences I've had on the bike - part of me wants to think its made up - but we all know there are morons out there - so sadly I can believe its true.0 -
It's just amazing that some of you think this is made up. Wow.
I think because its so far removed from any experiences I've had on the bike - part of me wants to think its made up - but we all know there are morons out there - so sadly I can believe its true.
I don't think anyone would accuse you of being a big girl, Frank.
To err is human, but to make a real balls up takes a super computer.0 -
I think it's unlikely to negatively affect a prospective cyclist wanting to shed a few pounds - if we all applauded the efforts of these apparent bullies then it may do, but we're not ... (on the whole) - so even if someone did come on here with a view to get into cycling (and is that likely?) then I think they'd be ok ...I'm in two minds as to whether this being discussed is a good thing, on the one hand it highlights there are t0ssers out there (us talking about it is unlikely to change that) but a prospective cyclist who wants to get into it to shed a few pounds may be put off cycling reading this.0 -
There are a lot of people that ride bikes that are not cyclists! Especially those strava warriors that feel shouting "on your right" when you are already four abreast on the narrow closed-road sportive is acceptable. Choppers
I would suggest some are those that drive cars in the same manner, no patience, no regard for other road users, driving in your boot, aggressive overtaking etc.
There are also a load of blokes that cannot abide it when girl passes them.
I occasionally ride a few metres behind the wife and the look and upping of the pace from blokes she passes is unbelievable, we call it the testosterone switch. I just sit back and laugh as they often blow themselves out trying to keep up. :twisted: Maybe I should abuse them for being fat and being chicked as I go by just to level it up for "the lone rider"
Or we could all just enjoy the ride, keep smiling and not take life too seriously 8)0 -
I think it's unlikely to negatively affect a prospective cyclist wanting to shed a few pounds - if we all applauded the efforts of these apparent bullies then it may do, but we're not ... (on the whole) - so even if someone did come on here with a view to get into cycling (and is that likely?) then I think they'd be ok ...I'm in two minds as to whether this being discussed is a good thing, on the one hand it highlights there are t0ssers out there (us talking about it is unlikely to change that) but a prospective cyclist who wants to get into it to shed a few pounds may be put off cycling reading this.
but they are unlikely to read this forum, they are much more likely to hear about the story on social media and the message it gives out is if you are overweight then other cyclists will make fun of you.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
I occasionally ride a few metres behind the wife
Love the way you make that sound like a choice! I read, when the wife isn't taking it easy on my sorry ass and I'm desperately trying to stay in touch whilst yo yoing a few metres off the back...0 -
Maybe he simply likes the view.
I occasionally ride a few metres behind the wife
Love the way you make that sound like a choice! I read, when the wife isn't taking it easy on my sorry ass and I'm desperately trying to stay in touch whilst yo yoing a few metres off the back...The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Good point! Maybe that's why the other blokes speed up too.
Maybe he simply likes the view.
I occasionally ride a few metres behind the wife
Love the way you make that sound like a choice! I read, when the wife isn't taking it easy on my sorry ass and I'm desperately trying to stay in touch whilst yo yoing a few metres off the back...0 -
Maybe he simply likes the view.
I occasionally ride a few metres behind the wife
Love the way you make that sound like a choice! I read, when the wife isn't taking it easy on my sorry ass and I'm desperately trying to stay in touch whilst yo yoing a few metres off the back...
Guilty as charged M'lud
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