Changing the chain
Sutton_Rider
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I'm about to put a new chain on the bike, I'm running an 11 speed 105 and have an HG700 chain. From my understanding the chain is handed, in other words the writting on the chain need to face outwards. But what about the pin, does it matter from which side the pin goes through?
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Handed?
I hope not. Mine just goes on any which way......0 -
some chains are directional
do what the manufacturer's instructions say, for shimano, if you've not got any info with the part, go to...
http://techdocs.shimano.commy bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny0 -
Thanks Sungod that answers the question. Navrig2 maybe you need to read the link above, page 5.0
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I fitted a new chain the wrong way round and my bike went backwards...0
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AFAIK Shimano chains are directional unless it's 11 speed when they aren't.0
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AFAIK Shimano chains are directional unless it's 11 speed when they aren't.
i would read the fitting instructions before saying that, as its clearly not shimanos view of their chains.0 -
Oh ship! I have always used shimano chains (with one of those quick link things) and never even imagined having to check for directional installation. Im on my second chain (same sprockets) without issue. If directional installation is important then I must have been very lucky that I just happened to put it on the right way both times. Otherwise I wouldnt be around to post this message.0
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I fitted a new chain the wrong way round and my bike went backwards...
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Thanks Sungod that answers the question. Navrig2 maybe you need to read the link above, page 5.
Mmmmm!
Three bikes covering Tiagra, 105 & Ultegra and I've never checked the "handedness" of a chain. I must have been lucky.
Time to buy a lottery ticket....0 -
I'm about to put a new chain on the bike, I'm running an 11 speed 105 and have an HG700 chain. From my understanding the chain is handed, in other words the writting on the chain need to face outwards. But what about the pin, does it matter from which side the pin goes through?
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FWIW, I would suggest you get a KMC quick link and don't use the supplied Shimano pin. The pin will obviously do the job but the quick link enables you to remove the chain easily for cleaning etc. I also always carry a spare KMC Quicklink in my toolkit in case of chain troubles when riding.Wilier Izoard XP0 -
Many of the Shimano chains specify installation with the writing or the additional slotted plates outwards, ie visible when viewed from the drive side. Shimano are also quite precious about where / how to use their snap-off joining pins.
I use KMC Missing Links with both KMC and Shimano chains; makes things easier all round.0 -
+1 for the links - pins are just a pain in the bum.0
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I'm about to put a new chain on the bike, I'm running an 11 speed 105 and have an HG700 chain. From my understanding the chain is handed, in other words the writing on the chain need to face outwards. But what about the pin, does it matter from which side the pin goes through?
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I understood what you meant by handed, the end of the pin meant to enter first has been chamfered or rounded to ease entry.0 -
Yes I understand that the pointy bit of the pin goes in first. Maybe I should of said 'which side of the chain'. My question was do you put it in from inside or the outside?0
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Instinct would suggest inserting the pin from the outside. Tricky to do it from the inside of the chain, so I'd assume Shimano have taken that into account.
They are fussy about pin placement:
"As illustrated in Fig.A, we strongly recommend to set the connecting pin in the hole of the outer link on the front side in the direction of travel. The chain’s level of strength is enhanced compared to the method in Fig.B."
What this means in practice is you cut the chain so when it's the right way round and you're joining it on the lower run, the end coming from the lower jockey wheel terminates in an inner link and the end coming from the chainring ends in an outer.
Using a Missing Link means you don't have to remember this rubbish...0 -
Yes I understand that the pointy bit of the pin goes in first. Maybe I should have said 'which side of the chain'. My question was do you put it in from inside or the outside?
http://si.shimano.com/php/download.php?file=pdf/dm/DM-CN0001-03-ENG.pdf0 -
I'm about to put a new chain on the bike, I'm running an 11 speed 105 and have an HG700 chain. From my understanding the chain is handed, in other words the writting on the chain need to face outwards. But what about the pin, does it matter from which side the pin goes through?
Thanks
FWIW, I would suggest you get a KMC quick link and don't use the supplied Shimano pin. The pin will obviously do the job but the quick link enables you to remove the chain easily for cleaning etc. I also always carry a spare KMC Quicklink in my toolkit in case of chain troubles when riding.
I would instead fit the pin as advised by Shimano and forget about the quick link. You don't need to remove the chain to clean it
The pin can go in either way, but it's easier if you fit it with the chain on pushing it in from the outboard side and pressing it in using a decent chain splitter. Then with a pair of pliers you remove the extra bit... wiggle the chain a bit so that it bends nicely and job doneleft the forum March 20230 -
AFAIK Shimano chains are directional unless it's 11 speed when they aren't.
Incorrect.
11 speed Dura-Ace is directional
It's also worth checking the multi-tool you carry around with you. As a lot of the chain tools out there are not compatible with 11 speed chains. One multi-tool manufacturer sneakily omitted this fact from its packaging / advertising."The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0
