Plotting routes for Garmin 1000

daniel_b
daniel_b Posts: 11,989
edited August 2015 in Road general
Evening all,

I was recently lucky enough to receive a 1000 as a birthday present.

I'm used to an Edge 205, FR 305, and Garmin 500.

I've always used a third party website, and created a course and saved it as a .tcx file, and on the 500, copied it into the New Files folder on the root of the device, and then started it up to convert it to a .fit file.
I then choose it from courses, and follow it as a breadcrumb trail - switching between that view and data view as required.

I've read some guides on mapping for the 1000, and have downloaded a big load of maps for my local and large surrounding area (http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/download-garmin-705800810.html) from the free website and have copied them onto a Micro SD card I bought from Amazon.
I have also now enabled this map from within the Garmin 1000 itself, and disabled all of the others - bit confused as there was about 3 or 4 other 'maps' that were on there and enabled - thought that would confuse the device if it had multiple maps to choose from.

So I am assuming I want to create or save an existing route from gpsies or a similar website, and just save it as a Garmin Course TCX file, or am I better advised to use Garmin Course CRS?

Just to explain my requirements - I have no plan to use the device for getting me from A-Z - I will plot routes ahead of time, and then would like the device to give me a map view if required, and also ideally notify me of left turn/right turn etc (If this worked perfectly and maybe popped over to map view for turns and junctions then I would not need to leave it on map view), ideally without having to set turn points on the map - something I never got working reliable on the 205 or 500, and totally gave up on.

I am assuming I then copy it into the new files folder of the 1000, but what is confusing me now is that both the Garmin itself, and now the SD card have a similar folder list, so would I be better to copy the routes onto the SD card rather than the device itself, or is it neither here nor there?

Then start the device up, for it to do the conversion, and somehow select the route - haven't looked that far ahead yet.

I'll start with a route I know well anyway, as I need to get to grips with how it works, but just wondered if anyone had any tip or experience of how to use it in this fashion?

Many thanks

Dan
Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
Scott CR1 SL 12
Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
Scott Foil 18

Comments

  • StillGoing
    StillGoing Posts: 5,211
    I always find GPX files work best.
    I ride a bike. Doesn't make me green or a tree hugger. I drive a car too.
  • wongataa
    wongataa Posts: 1,001
    Both GPX and TCX courses will work equally well. With the TCX course you can have course points that pop up on the display if you wish. These are not possible with a GPX course. With both the underlying course is identical. Course points are not required for turn by turn navigation that you want.

    When you use a course to navigate with the device will automatically switch to the map view (if not on the map screen) with a big turn arrow overlaid when you approach a junction and then after you pass the turn it will switch back to the screen you had displayed previously.
  • I appreciate that you are using the Edge 1000, and I am currently using the Edge 800 (awaiting delivery of the 1000), but this website should give you a good rundown of all you need to know for routing. I'm hoping the setup hasn't changed that much for the 1000 :

    http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/foolproof-course-navigation-on-the-garmin-edge-800/

    I plan my routes on http://ridewithgps.com/ and use their export .tcx or .gpx function to put routes straight to my sd card.

    Then set the controls on your Edge and away you go. Every time a turn is coming up the Edge will beep, show you the map with an arrow for the direction you need to go, it will also give you a count down in time and distance roughly until you get to the turning.

    Hope that helps.

    It takes a bit of getting used to setting up but once you get the hang of it, it's easy.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,989
    Thankyou very much for those helpful replies.
    wongataa
    When you use a course to navigate with the device will automatically switch to the map view (if not on the map screen) with a big turn arrow overlaid when you approach a junction and then after you pass the turn it will switch back to the screen you had displayed previously.

    That's exactly what I am after really - don't really want the map view on all the time if I can help it, though appreciate it might be useful for certain situations.

    Thanks for the link Volvo FB, that looks like an excellent guide.

    Cheers

    Dan
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • Save all your routes on the SD card, then if you change the unit you won't loose your routes.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,989

    Cheers for that, I think between this thread and those links I should be completely covered :D
    Give it a go tomorrow night if I can.
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • ravey1981
    ravey1981 Posts: 1,111
    www.plotaroute.com

    Its by far the best plotting site I've used. Very simple to use with no over complication. It will even upload straight to your garmin device with turn by turn instructions. These work extremely well even on the bottom of the range edge200 as well as the edge500 which I use most often.
  • ben-----
    ben----- Posts: 573
    http://www.plotaroute.com

    Its by far the best plotting site I've used. Very simple to use with no over complication. It will even upload straight to your garmin device with turn by turn instructions. These work extremely well even on the bottom of the range edge200 as well as the edge500 which I use most often.

    How do you go about dragging the route on that site? I just don't get it. You put drag mode on. It allows you to edit/drag a tiny portion of the route. You can change which portion is going to be draggable by the red and green circles on the straight line at the bottom. But what if you want to drag/change a large portion of the route? It must be possible but after a good bit of playing around I couldn't do it.
  • daniel_b
    daniel_b Posts: 11,989
    Save all your routes on the SD card, then if you change the unit you won't loose your routes.

    Top tip, cheers.

    Well first TCX copied over, and is visible.

    Going to try it out tomorrow, was planning to try it on a 60 I knew, but a part of this route is new, so I hope it works!
    I'm going to drop the 500 in my back pocket as insurance, as I have no sense of direction :?
    Felt F70 05 (Turbo)
    Marin Palisades Trail 91 and 06
    Scott CR1 SL 12
    Cannondale Synapse Adventure 15 & 16 Di2
    Scott Foil 18
  • http://www.plotaroute.com

    Its by far the best plotting site I've used. Very simple to use with no over complication. It will even upload straight to your garmin device with turn by turn instructions. These work extremely well even on the bottom of the range edge200 as well as the edge500 which I use most often.

    How do you go about dragging the route on that site? I just don't get it. You put drag mode on. It allows you to edit/drag a tiny portion of the route. You can change which portion is going to be draggable by the red and green circles on the straight line at the bottom. But what if you want to drag/change a large portion of the route? It must be possible but after a good bit of playing around I couldn't do it.

    Same problem as you, Ben. Shame because the elevation data appears to be much more accurate for this area than 'Ride with GPS'.