What angle rise or tilt are you running Spesh Toupe saddle ?
DCI Gene Hunt
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I had a pro bike fit done about 6 months ago which the fitter said the saddle I was using should be installed at -2 degree downwards tilt. I have since acquired a spesh toupe and I referred to the fit which I had done , measured the setback and installed the toupe at -2 degrees. The toupe is a different shape to the 1st saddle and at -2 degrees it was unrideable as I felt like I was going to slide straight over the handlebars. With the help of an incline app and a piece of wood the same length as the saddle, I set about finding the toupe sweet spot angle for me. After plenty of trial and error, +0.7 degree provided a stable platform for my ar$e with no slipping forward or perineal pressure 
Id read plenty of comments on the web concerning toupe users and slipping forward issues due to the shape of the saddle and I am just curious as to the installation angles that other toupe users deploy . Is yours up , down or level and how many degrees ? The instructions said to level the middle section of the saddle but to be honest I didn't find using that technique to be very comfortable at all.
Id read plenty of comments on the web concerning toupe users and slipping forward issues due to the shape of the saddle and I am just curious as to the installation angles that other toupe users deploy . Is yours up , down or level and how many degrees ? The instructions said to level the middle section of the saddle but to be honest I didn't find using that technique to be very comfortable at all.
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Not sure who the 'pro' bike fitter was, but I can't think of any reason why a road saddle should be anything other than dead level.
I think you are over-thinking it with all this '+0.7 degree' stuff - just stick a spirit level on it and make sure the bubble is in the middle. I've set Toupes up like this - and in this regard, they are no different to any other saddle.0 -
Between +1 and +2 degrees for me, both on a Toupe and a Romin.VO2 Max - 79 ml/kg/min
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Between +1 and +2 degrees for me, both on a Toupe and a Romin.
Did you get the tumbling forward experience too at lower angles of rise ? I did some googling and the slipping forward seems well queried amongst toupe owners.0 -
different saddle (a romin) but i used a spirit level across (perpendicular to front-back) the area the sit bones rest
(about 2/3 back) - and made this part level. Front-Back didn't seem to work for the Romin.0 -
Did you get the tumbling forward experience too at lower angles of rise ? I did some googling and the slipping forward seems well queried amongst toupe owners.
Not really no, I just tried a few different positions and found that to be the most comfortable for me.VO2 Max - 79 ml/kg/min
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Which is as it should be. Within reason there is no "correct" saddle position or angle. Extreme positions suggest an overall bike fit problem and so a fitter should base things on a generally flat saddle.
Did you get the tumbling forward experience too at lower angles of rise ? I did some googling and the slipping forward seems well queried amongst toupe owners.
Not really no, I just tried a few different positions and found that to be the most comfortable for me.
Question is, what's flat? Depends where you sit on the saddle, I would say. I sit quite far forward on mine (Spec Toupe) and so its slightly tilted (less than a degree) forward. Others may differ.
Worst advice I have ever had about cycling was from fellow cyclists, when I just took it up seriously, about how my bike "should" be set up. I ended up with the nose of my saddle pointing at the sky, and my shifters pointing at the ground. The other riders approved but it damn near put me off the sport.
Ignore us all, basically. That's my advice. Of course, feel free to ignore it.0 -
Depends if you want a position thats comfortable, or one that enables you to put out most power.
Everyone has different requirements.I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0 -
These are the same thing (again within reason) - i.e. if your bike fits and you are merely tweaking things like saddle angle, the tilt of your bars and so on.[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19643602#p19643602]SloppySchleckonds[/url] wrote:Depends if you want a position thats comfortable, or one that enables you to put out most power.0
