Fox float x or float x 2
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As it says in title, I've got a carbon bronson with the 2015 fox 36 and I am after upgrading my shock I do a few enduro races and the general trail centre stuff any help would be question appreciated.
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Neither, Get a Cane Creek DB air.
From what I've read, just too much tweaking.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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Cane Creek shocks are really easy to set up, easier than any others with similar adjustment. The completely independent dampers mean that if you adjust one setting it doesn't effect others.
Cane Creek also have an excellent tuning guide and a library of base settings on their website.
I spent around two hours setting each of my Cane Creek shocks to get them spot on using Base settings from the website and I haven't touched them since.
The Float X2 has the same range of adjustment anyway so it won't be any easier to set up.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Neither, Get a Cane Creek DB air.
From what I've read, just too much tweaking.
a Float X2 has the same HSC,LSC,HSR,LSR that the CC DB air has. I'd get the CCDB air CS0 -
Id buy a Float X with a custom tune from Push or Mojo.
You won't ever achieve the same feel from a Cane Creek shock.0 -
In what way will the PUSH tuned Float X be better?
The reason the Float X needs the PUSH tune to get it right is that it lacks external adjustment to set it up.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350 -
Id buy a Float X with a custom tune from Push or Mojo.
You won't ever achieve the same feel from a Cane Creek shock.
That's what I've got. Absolutely cracking, can't say enough good things about it. But, then again, I suspect I'd be just as happy if I had the CC on the back of my bike.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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I'd hold fire, how long before Cane Creek release an evol equivalent air can?
First rockshox with their Debonair then came the Vorsprung Corset and now Fox with their Evol, reckon there's a new air can right round the corner.0 -
Strangley enough fifth element got there ages ago with a bigger air can, wonder why they were so well reviewed at the time?
The Cane Creek is already a similar size to the new big cans.Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.0 -
I'd hold fire, how long before Cane Creek release an evol equivalent air can?
First rockshox with their Debonair then came the Vorsprung Corset and now Fox with their Evol, reckon there's a new air can right round the corner.
They don't have to - they already have a similar system in their shock.0 -
They don't have to - they already have a similar system in their shock.
It's slightly different - which is why there is the notchy feeling at the start of the stroke on a CCDB Air & not on the FX2. The valving system is almost identical though.
I'd probably run the Float X on a Bronson. The CCDB Inline's have some serious reliability concerns (well documented online & everyone I know who's run one has blown it up - me included).
The CCDB Air & FX2 are a big shock for a slightly longer travel trail type bike, especially for your intended use.0 -
The first batch of DB Inlines were unreliable but apparently that's all sorted now. My replacement came with different seals to the first one.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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They don't have to - they already have a similar system in their shock.
It's slightly different - which is why there is the notchy feeling at the start of the stroke on a CCDB Air & not on the FX2. The valving system is almost identical though.
I'd probably run the Float X on a Bronson. The CCDB Inline's have some serious reliability concerns (well documented online & everyone I know who's run one has blown it up - me included).
The CCDB Air & FX2 are a big shock for a slightly longer travel trail type bike, especially for your intended use.
my inline (first run of shocks) has been nothing but perfect - the notchy bit is due to the negative air spring filling up and only felt with volume reducers in the air can. They have a large negative spring just like the debonair and evol air can. its nothing new.0 -
My first Inline lasted half a ride before the climb switch jammed solid. TF Tuned swapped it the next day with no problems. I have heard that the first batch were rushed in to production because the details were leaked before Cane Creek were ready to launch it.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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would explain why the HSC image was upside down lol0
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The new X2 seems to have a quite similar dimension to the CCDB Inline.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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They don't have to - they already have a similar system in their shock.
It's slightly different - which is why there is the notchy feeling at the start of the stroke on a CCDB Air & not on the FX2. The valving system is almost identical though.
I'd probably run the Float X on a Bronson. The CCDB Inline's have some serious reliability concerns (well documented online & everyone I know who's run one has blown it up - me included).
The CCDB Air & FX2 are a big shock for a slightly longer travel trail type bike, especially for your intended use.
my inline (first run of shocks) has been nothing but perfect - the notchy bit is due to the negative air spring filling up and only felt with volume reducers in the air can. They have a large negative spring just like the debonair and evol air can. its nothing new.
Like I said, my first one went pop, the second one knocked out of the box. Another friends lasted 6 weeks & more recently one that came OE on a Spec Enduro had to be replaced with a M+ Debonair as Specialized have had so many issues they are refusing to use the Inline & just replacing them.
Maybe it works better on shorter travel, lower leverage ratio bikes.
FWIW I have an X2 on my Reign, which I went with over a CCDB Air based on my experience on my previous bike.0 -
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Mines 125mm with low ratio and quite a rising rate.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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the inline probably wasn't suited to bikes with a solid yolk, puts a lot of stress on the shalf compared to normal links that allow the shock to move.0
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mine is 140mm high ratio bike
In the politest possible way, maybe you don't work it too hard?
Fact still remains, they have been and do continue to be unreliable, manufacturers have dropped them from bike models, there are question marks over whether they work properly on higher leverage ratio bikes, or if you have a bit much natural padding & that doesn't seem to be confined to the initial run of them.
There are better choices out there IMO.
Worth noting there is also a specific 'Bronson Tune' for the CCDB Air - not entirely sure what it involves (modified internals?) so it plays nicely with the suspension.0 -
mine is 140mm high ratio bike
In the politest possible way, maybe you don't work it too hard?
Fact still remains, they have been and do continue to be unreliable, manufacturers have dropped them from bike models, there are question marks over whether they work properly on higher leverage ratio bikes, or if you have a bit much natural padding & that doesn't seem to be confined to the initial run of them.
There are better choices out there IMO.
Worth noting there is also a specific 'Bronson Tune' for the CCDB Air - not entirely sure what it involves (modified internals?) so it plays nicely with the suspension.
no the DH and Enduro trails in the tweed valley are nice and smooth
I'm not oblivious to the fact that there have been issues but like wise there are lots of people that are more than happy with the shock.
bronson tune has a different negative spring0 -
I know Cane Creek shocks have never worked with Specialized bikes. The DB Coil is prone to snapping shafts because of the bending loads on them. Seen it happen on the landing of a 20' drop.Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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Eleven.Six for the win.Bird Aeris : Trek Remedy 9.9 29er : Trek Procaliber 9.8 SL0
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Eleven.Six for the win.
Eh?All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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http://www.tftuned.com/push-shock/p3137Eleven.Six for the win.
Eh?0 -
Ooo, er, I'm not going to be needing one of them any time soon.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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For that price it needs to be able to make tea and come with a busty young blonde lady who only wears tiny bikinis to service, clean and set it up as well as provide other services....Transition Patrol - viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=130702350
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It's very sexy, though.All the gear, no idea and loving the smell of jealousy in the morning.
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11-6 would be lovely, but is it worth nearly double every other shock on the market?
Let alone on a Bronson?
II considered picking one up in Canada, but it was still £550, which is nearly double what my FX2 cost. Which also, is a really, really good shock. I'd go so far as to say the best shock i've ridden, including most high end stuff on my DH bike.0
