Strava segment heroes
mfin
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The best thing about Strava is it's segments, it truly shows who the quickest rider in each part of road in the country is. Plus, It's completely free to race, you don't need a license, and the amount of competitors make it the single best way to ascertain who's undeniably the best.
If you want to be the quickest rider you can even make your own segment somewhere that increases the likelyhood of you getting a kom, ride in a chain to up your chances, get the TT bike out, or enter when there's a howling tailwind.
If you want to be the quickest rider you can even make your own segment somewhere that increases the likelyhood of you getting a kom, ride in a chain to up your chances, get the TT bike out, or enter when there's a howling tailwind.
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You forgot using your car or motorbike.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
yep, on segments that I am in there is at least one pri#$ that was going around every single road with a car or motorbike... He is the best pri#$ for miles!0
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I get my KOM's by cruising to targeted segment at 10mph and then produce a balls out attack for 30 seconds.0
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Yawn, build a bridge and get over it, it's just a bit of fun that can make a ride more interesting.
I have various KOM's but I am under no illusions whatsoever that numerous cyclists could easily take them.
Car / m/bike abusers are easy to spot, just flag them, mostly it's just they forgot to turn the Garmin off after getting in the car to go home.0 -
Its only £50 a year subscription, I could spend that on a meal at McDonalds.I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles0
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What's Strava?Advocate of disc brakes.0
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What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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Why so butthurt over Strava?0
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What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.
It's also handy if you want to find out if it has been very windy or just windy."You really think you can burn off sugar with exercise?" downhill paul0 -
Why so butthurt over Strava?
I personally think it's a great way of measuring my own progress. Good for recce'ing time trial courses etc. Crap for comparing with others though due to the variables...Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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Why so butthurt over Strava?
I personally think it's a great way of measuring my own progress. Good for recce'ing time trial courses etc. Crap for comparing with others though due to the variables...
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It is what it is... if you don't like it don't use it. For all it's flaws it's great fun. Can't see the point of whining.. :roll:Why tidy the house when you can clean your bike?0
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I'm above Ben Swift and Russ Downing on a few segments around here, I'm clearly better than them. Where's my contract Dave B?0
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Its only £50 a year subscription, I could spend that on a meal at McDonalds.
:?: Really? £50 for one meal in McD? Respec' da man.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19639838#p19639838]Charlie Potatoes[/url] wrote:What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.
It's also handy if you want to find out if it has been very windy or just windy.
You also forgot about your "mates" who are on a [Insert word below here] ride (when no impressive average speed target met)
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19639838#p19639838]Charlie Potatoes[/url] wrote:What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.
It's also handy if you want to find out if it has been very windy or just windy.
You also forgot about your "mates" who are on a [Insert word below here] ride (when no impressive average speed target met)
Recovery
Steady
Social
Tired
Hilly
Zone 1
Cool down
Warm down
Guilty.Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19639838#p19639838]Charlie Potatoes[/url] wrote:What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.
It's also handy if you want to find out if it has been very windy or just windy.
You also forgot about your "mates" who are on a [Insert word below here] ride (when no impressive average speed target met)
Recovery
Steady
Social
Tired
Hilly
Zone 1
Cool down
Warm down
You missed my #1 excuse this year, 'Headwind'.
Edit: didn't see the post you quoted!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19639838#p19639838]Charlie Potatoes[/url] wrote:What's Strava?
It's a method of testing how insecure/inadequate you feel about your riding.
It's also handy if you want to find out if it has been very windy or just windy.
You also forgot about your "mates" who are on a [Insert word below here] ride (when no impressive average speed target met)
Recovery
Steady
Social
Tired
Hilly
Zone 1
Cool down
Warm down
Guilty.
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But it is a great diary for logging rides, setting yourself a distance challenge to aim for, planning (or finding) routes and it keeps me motivated to go out cycling.
Surely that is a good thing?
If somebody has a quicker time than me, does it bother me? No. Maybe they are just a better cyclist and you can see on Strava they've done more training. To be honest I hardly look at other peoples times and I really don't mind how long it takes you.
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It is, if nothing else, useful for mapping routes and remembering nice sections of road to connect them to rides in the future etc. I mean the segment thing, I dunno. Where I live I mostly know all the other guys who race and we are all for the most part in the top 10s on most of the segments. It's a small place, there's the odd instance of someone bashing a segment in a hurricane or getting a KOM on a segment with 8 other riders etc... Similarly there's lots of segments that are club hill climbs or cross through TTs, so from the outside you think "windy Strava bash surely!" until you get into the nitty gritty.
Sure there's plenty of people who take shit too seriously but let's be honest, if it gets people out on their bike who gives a damn? It's the people who line up next to me with a number on their back I worry about, not the ones on Strava.0 -
This is like a thread from 4 yrs ago 8) have you only just signed up to strava?
Veloviewer or Raceshape were good also but im to tight to pay 10 quid or whatever now they aren't free so have lost abit of interest in segment bashing on strava to improve my veloviewer score (as im to slow to get most KOMS unless there is a huricane .)0 -
"windy Strava bash surely!" until you get into the nitty gritty.
True.
I used to think "wind assisted", until one guy pointed out he does a 100km loop through 360 degrees, so he spent as much time cycling into the wind as he did downwind, so he had worked for that seg. Then of course there's nothing stopping you from getting out there in similar conditions.
What next? Criticising Cavendish / Sagan / Greipel as they only sprint at the end of a TDF stage and not for the entire duration?"The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
"windy Strava bash surely!" until you get into the nitty gritty.
True.
I used to think "wind assisted", until one guy pointed out he does a 100km loop through 360 degrees, so he spent as much time cycling into the wind as he did downwind, so he had worked for that seg. Then of course there's nothing stopping you from getting out there in similar conditions.
What next? Criticising Cavendish / Sagan / Greipel as they only sprint at the end of a TDF stage and not for the entire duration?The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
If you ride often enough, there's more than enough chance you'll benefit from the same favourable conditions that the KoM on any segment probably benefitted from, so it's up to you.
I tell you what though, if I'd had Strava when I first started seriously riding 25 years ago, who knows.... Where I grew up, there was virtually no one else on road bikes and the nearest club was too far for me to join (no car available) so I had no idea at all if I was actually any good or not. Strava wouldn't have just given me the encouragement to really go for it (I think now I could have definitely made it to decent amateur status at the least) but also given me an indication of exactly what sort of rider I was. Until I started riding with Strava I had no idea I was a downhill specialist...
That said, some of those comments above are very true and made me lolJob: Job, n,. A frustratingly long period of time separating two shorter than usual training rides0 -
"windy Strava bash surely!" until you get into the nitty gritty.
True.
I used to think "wind assisted", until one guy pointed out he does a 100km loop through 360 degrees, so he spent as much time cycling into the wind as he did downwind, so he had worked for that seg. Then of course there's nothing stopping you from getting out there in similar conditions.
What next? Criticising Cavendish / Sagan / Greipel as they only sprint at the end of a TDF stage and not for the entire duration?
Yup, I do some of the same loops over and over again (need something fairly flat/rolling, no junctions etc for my intervals). Some days I'll hit segments when the wind is behind me and I'm on an interval. Same for hills, if the wind is behind me and I'm knocking out threshold efforts on a hill I might get some cheeky Strava points haha... I will admit to sometimes having a naughty Strava bash mid ride if I know the owner of a KOM and the wind is favourable, but the only people who think Strava matters are the sort of weirdos who are "competitive" enough to try and sprint past you on the road but wouldn't dream of racing!0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19640610#p19640610]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:If you ride often enough, there's more than enough chance you'll benefit from the same favourable conditions that the KoM on any segment probably benefitted from, so it's up to you.
^^^^ Nail on the head.
If you go out a lot, your bound to have a tailwind at some point. I would have gone out regardless of what the weather is like (ok unless its raining v.heavy) and have probably done the seg many times, in both directions, into wind and with a tailwind. Do I have a KOM that could have had a tailwind that day? Maybe, but I've done that segment 139 times. But the bike did not move on its own, still powered by me and some can power it more than others. No doubt the likes of Cavindish / Sagan / Greipel can still beat us if they had a headwind and we had a tailwind.
Edit : after watching stage 2 of the TDF, it looks like Sagan still could beat our best tailwind effort even if he stopped for a puncture mid-segment :shock:"The Prince of Wales is now the King of France" - Calton Kirby0 -
If you want a 'fairer' segment, look at a decent climb that changes direction a bit, then the effect of wind is greatly reduced.0
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I was a strava hero last year, it made me go out and train but then the koms started dry up and I realised it was a bit shallow, I was only getting them because none of the decent riders were doing the same routes or as said if the wind was in the right direction etc
This year I mainly use strava to log my training but the best thing for me is to analyse the races I've done. Everything is fair in the race of truth so you can see where you're gaining time on competitors.
The whole package is a great tool and there's a lot more to it than the segments and gaining koms.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19640610#p19640610]steadyrollingman[/url] wrote:Until I started riding with Strava I had no idea I was a downhill specialist...
Not entirely sure how Strava would tell you where your strengths are...?VO2 Max - 79 ml/kg/min
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