Pet ownership and training plans

Matthewfalle
Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
edited June 2015 in Road general
Hello All.

I was just after some advice if I may please.

My dog is now old enough to be able to go for runs (decent length) without stopping every two minutes. I have also seen people cycling along with their dogs running alongside.

Has anyone ever done this? If so, can anyone offer any training tips on how to succeed with this? Although my dog is a friendly one I feel his temperament may change if I run him over.

Obviously I do not expect to do a local club "10" with him alongside, but it would be nice to trundle along the local canal tow path or cycle path (mixed use) on the single speeder with him happily jogging alongside me.

Thank you very much in advance.

Matthew
Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

De Sisti wrote:
This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
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He's right you know.

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  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,228
    There's a YouTube clip of a dog cycling. That would solve your problems.

    IMO it's okay once in a while but generally not fulfilling for the dog. Their walk is more about sniffing bums and evaluating wee smells and socialising than it is about exercise as such. I've been with someone who tried to square that particular circle.

    I'd love a dog, but a dog would not get much out of my cycling, being tied to a tree by the bank watching me row, or from me collapsed on the sofa recovering afterwards. So I have cats instead.
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I don't like to see people out cycling with dogs, thinking they are doing the animal a favour. As stated above they need stimulation, not just physical exercise.

    Ditto the lazy b@stards who walk 15 yards from the car then stand throwing a ball repeatedly for the dog.

    And I've seen one f@ckwit who had his animal chasing a remote controlled model car.

    I find after a 2-3 hour bike ride, a 3 mile dog walk is the perfect way to warm down.
  • First.Aspect
    First.Aspect Posts: 17,228
    I don't like to see people out cycling with dogs, thinking they are doing the animal a favour. As stated above they need stimulation, not just physical exercise.

    Ditto the lazy b@stards who walk 15 yards from the car then stand throwing a ball repeatedly for the dog.

    And I've seen one f@ckwit who had his animal chasing a remote controlled model car.

    I find after a 2-3 hour bike ride, a 3 mile dog walk is the perfect way to warm down.
    Don't you get sore knees and hands?
  • I don't like to see people out cycling with dogs, thinking they are doing the animal a favour. As stated above they need stimulation, not just physical exercise.

    Ditto the lazy b@stards who walk 15 yards from the car then stand throwing a ball repeatedly for the dog.

    And I've seen one f@ckwit who had his animal chasing a remote controlled model car.

    I find after a 2-3 hour bike ride, a 3 mile dog walk is the perfect way to warm down.
    Don't you get sore knees and hands?

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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    I don't like to see people out cycling with dogs, thinking they are doing the animal a favour. As stated above they need stimulation, not just physical exercise.

    Ditto the lazy b@stards who walk 15 yards from the car then stand throwing a ball repeatedly for the dog.

    And I've seen one f@ckwit who had his animal chasing a remote controlled model car.

    I find after a 2-3 hour bike ride, a 3 mile dog walk is the perfect way to warm down.
    Don't you get sore knees and hands?

    You seem to be confusing the dog walk with the walk back from the pub!
  • homers_double
    homers_double Posts: 8,292
    Would you be linking your dogs hrm to your garmin to see if he's working in the right zone?
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  • redvision
    redvision Posts: 2,958
    Hello All.

    I was just after some advice if I may please.

    My dog is now old enough to be able to go for runs (decent length) without stopping every two minutes. I have also seen people cycling along with their dogs running alongside.

    Has anyone ever done this? If so, can anyone offer any training tips on how to succeed with this? Although my dog is a friendly one I feel his temperament may change if I run him over.

    Obviously I do not expect to do a local club "10" with him alongside, but it would be nice to trundle along the local canal tow path or cycle path (mixed use) on the single speeder with him happily jogging alongside me.

    Thank you very much in advance.

    Matthew

    I'm strongly opposed to this.
    I see people doing this and personally I find it cruel.
    It seems to me that people look for an easy /lazy way to exercise a dog quickly & this is definitely in that category.
    If you have a dog you have taken on the responsibility to look after it and care for it, this includes walking it on a regular basis, not forcing the poor thing to run.
  • CYCLESPORT1
    CYCLESPORT1 Posts: 471
    WALK YOU DOG !
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    And I've seen one f@ckwit who had his animal chasing a remote controlled model car.

    RC cars can be used to train dogs. Our friend trains agility dogs and she recommends it on some of her courses.

    FWIW my other half takes our dogs out when she goes for a run and they love it. And there's a guy who takes two small collie type dogs out with him on a local MTB trail. If your animals are well trained then there's no harm in knackering them out on a bike run. Just watch out for pricks on road bikes flexing their egos on Strava segments. God help you if you get in their way!
  • DeVlaeminck
    DeVlaeminck Posts: 9,106
    I've got a Belgian Shepherd who has run alongside me while I ride - my terrier would be half a mile back sniffing some bushes and then get into a fight with a rottweiler - it depends on the dog. I disagree with the posts implying dogs don't enjoy running - some will some wont. My dogs have a huge amount of energy so if I'm oing out for an easy bike ride on a trail with the kids (not so much now the kids are older) why ot bring the dogs along rather than leave them home - it's not an excuse not to walk them it's a treat. Unless you have 3-4 hours spare to walk an active dog each day then including them in other stuff you do - even if that is visiting your cycling club - gives them some variety in their lives and uses up some of their energy. Obviously if you own a bulldog or a dachshund running alongside a bike is maybe something to miss.
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  • ryanshattered
    ryanshattered Posts: 177
    edited June 2015
    Personally I think exercising with your dog is great for both parties.

    Dogs have a lot of energy, and while they definitely need plenty of stimulation, they also need to expend all that energy and they need to keep fit. For a working family/person that only has a spare 30 minutes on a week day, a run/cycle with the dog is far more productive for the dog than a walk of the same duration. Going for a quick local walk, the dog will have a little sniff around the field, but you'll probably find they are mostly looking to you to play energetically with them - start running and they'll race/chase.

    The times my dog seems most satisfied after an outing are when we've taken him swimming (endless enthusiasm fetching of things from a river/pond), running, or on a walk/hike of 3 hours or so.

    My wife runs several times a week with our labrador and he totally loves it.
    Her runs are usually a mix of roads where he's on a lead attached to her belt and enclosed wood/parkland where he's allowed off the lead to explore/sniff/swim etc. He catches up when he's ready.

    He's fitter, healthier, faster and more agile than pretty much any other lab you'll come across - he's explosively fast and the only dogs that out run him in play are whippets/lurchers/greyhounds and the like. The majority you see are poor overfed barrel shaped things that plod around aimlessly for hours with their doting owners who treat them like children. Sad thing is, they still want to to play, but they can't because they're just not fit enough.

    A cousin of mine goes out on her bike with her dog and he realy enjoys it too.
  • I've got a Belgian Shepherd who has run alongside me while I ride - my terrier would be half a mile back sniffing some bushes and then get into a fight with a rottweiler - it depends on the dog. I disagree with the posts implying dogs don't enjoy running - some will some wont. My dogs have a huge amount of energy so if I'm oing out for an easy bike ride on a trail with the kids (not so much now the kids are older) why ot bring the dogs along rather than leave them home - it's not an excuse not to walk them it's a treat. Unless you have 3-4 hours spare to walk an active dog each day then including them in other stuff you do - even if that is visiting your cycling club - gives them some variety in their lives and uses up some of their energy. Obviously if you own a bulldog or a dachshund running alongside a bike is maybe something to miss.

    Yep
  • thegreatdivide
    thegreatdivide Posts: 5,807
    edited June 2015
    Totally agree with both of the posts above. Our dogs love the exercise! One is a collie spaniel cross and one is some kind of lurcher terrier cross (he looks like Snowy crossed with Yoda) they've got 'active' written all over them. A street walk and a bit of sniffing will only result in noisy evening for me n the Mrs.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Personally I think exercising with your dog is great for both parties.

    Dogs have a lot of energy, and while they definitely need plenty of stimulation, they also need to expend all that energy and they need to keep fit. For a working family/person that only has a spare 30 minutes on a week day, a run/cycle with the dog is far more productive for the dog than a walk of the same duration. Going for a quick local walk, the dog will have a little sniff around the field, but you'll probably find they are mostly looking to you to play energetically with them - start running and they'll race/chase.

    The times my dog seems most satisfied after an outing are when we've taken him swimming (endless enthusiasm fetching of things from a river/pond), running, or on a walk/hike of 3 hours or so.

    My wife runs several times a week with our labrador and he totally loves it.
    Her runs are usually a mix of roads where he's on a lead attached to her belt and enclosed wood/parkland where he's allowed off the lead to explore/sniff/swim etc. He catches up when he's ready.

    He's fitter, healthier, faster and more agile than pretty much any other lab you'll come across - he's explosively fast and the only dogs that out run him in play are whippets/lurchers/greyhounds and the like. The majority you see are poor overfed barrel shaped things that plod around aimlessly for hours with their doting owners who treat them like children. Sad thing is, they still want to to play, but they can't because they're just not fit enough.

    A cousin of mine goes out on her bike with her dog and he realy enjoys it too.

    My lab could have your lab, easy. Sacked off a lovely walk to go galloping with some collies and their owners on horseback. We stayed by the horsebox having an icecream waiting for their ride to end.
    Next day? Was keen for more.
  • Personally I think exercising with your dog is great for both parties.

    Dogs have a lot of energy, and while they definitely need plenty of stimulation, they also need to expend all that energy and they need to keep fit. For a working family/person that only has a spare 30 minutes on a week day, a run/cycle with the dog is far more productive for the dog than a walk of the same duration. Going for a quick local walk, the dog will have a little sniff around the field, but you'll probably find they are mostly looking to you to play energetically with them - start running and they'll race/chase.

    The times my dog seems most satisfied after an outing are when we've taken him swimming (endless enthusiasm fetching of things from a river/pond), running, or on a walk/hike of 3 hours or so.

    My wife runs several times a week with our labrador and he totally loves it.
    Her runs are usually a mix of roads where he's on a lead attached to her belt and enclosed wood/parkland where he's allowed off the lead to explore/sniff/swim etc. He catches up when he's ready.

    He's fitter, healthier, faster and more agile than pretty much any other lab you'll come across - he's explosively fast and the only dogs that out run him in play are whippets/lurchers/greyhounds and the like. The majority you see are poor overfed barrel shaped things that plod around aimlessly for hours with their doting owners who treat them like children. Sad thing is, they still want to to play, but they can't because they're just not fit enough.

    A cousin of mine goes out on her bike with her dog and he realy enjoys it too.

    My lab could have your lab, easy. Sacked off a lovely walk to go galloping with some collies and their owners on horseback. We stayed by the horsebox having an icecream waiting for their ride to end.
    Next day? Was keen for more.

    :)
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    As other have said depends on the dog. My dog is a rescue Greyhound so he mostly stays on lead when on track walks, I tried taking him running a few time but he prefers walking and stopping to sniff (a lot). My friends collie used to come cycling with us, he loved it and his recall was impeccable so it was good for both.
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Thank you all very much for your replies - its been brilliant to see all opinions - am very impressed at the types of exercise people give their dogs.

    I agree that all dogs must have stimulation, education, play and joy in a household, but I think that mixing it all up may work best.

    Has anyone any tips on training a dog to rum alongside and not into a bicycle? I tried it on a skateboard once duly a dalliance I had with a younger lady a few years back (but she wasn't that young!!!!!) and it ended it pain (both emotional and physical!).

    Again, thank you very much indeed for all your time.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • kajjal
    kajjal Posts: 3,380
    Tried training our westie to run along side my mountain bike, after a while she got the hang of it but i spent more time testing her top speed on my edge 500 which was a bit unfair. Also as above being a terrier she prefered sniffing and annoying dogs at least 4 times her size.
  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    Dogs are loyal followers, cats think things through...

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  • roger_merriman
    roger_merriman Posts: 6,165
    I take my folks dog out on the MTB riding up and over hills, this works well for both parties 10/20 miles.

    On the flat he can keep up no problem, and isn't far behind on the down, and creams me up hill, we stop to look at the view from time to time, and so on.

    bar the occasional blast down the Sustrans path I don't bother with the CX bike I don't think he gets much out of it, he seems to like short blasts and harangues me if i'm not up to speed, pulls along side at 30mph, barks etc and then jumps to warp.
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    I have also decided to start really insipid threads in Road General to try and lull them into a false of security before destroying them whilst also pushing up my post count.

    I think one middle of the road fairly wet thread a day should do the job.

    Thats not answering his question though is it? Looks like you are pushing your own post count up.
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  • de_sisti
    de_sisti Posts: 1,283
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:
  • team47b
    team47b Posts: 6,425
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    my isetta is a 300cc bike
  • pblakeney
    pblakeney Posts: 27,352
    Would you be linking your dogs hrm to your garmin to see if he's working in the right zone?
    A supreme suggestion!
    One which should be made mandatory for anyone contemplating such methods.
    I see a few doing so, and it always appears wrong. Either the dog gets too much exercise, or the rider too little.
    A bad compromise.

    However, tie one end of an extended leash to your frame, and the other to an angry Husky and you may well have a balance.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,829
    A friend of mine stuck a Garmin on his dog a few years back, she hit 35mph plus on a few occasions just running about as he walked.
    As for dogs and bikes try this. Don't so what a friend of mine did and let a husky cross pull you when you're on a bike. :shock:
  • DCDB
    DCDB Posts: 27

    Has anyone any tips on training a dog to rum alongside and not into a bicycle? I tried it on a skateboard once duly a dalliance I had with a younger lady a few years back (but she wasn't that young!!!!!) and it ended it pain (both emotional and physical!).

    Start slow with whatever method you used to develop the 'heal' command. This has worked for both our Dalmatians (who run and run and run...). Once they get comfortable being close to the bike (we can now give them a treat on the move) then they will happily stay with you. The start slow bit is important, in my opinion, as there will be a few occasions of nudging them with the front wheel when they stop in front of you, but our boys soon learnt that being directly in front of the bike was not the best place to be.

    Agree with the posts about dogs needing the exercise, and also about not over doing it. We cycle at a pace that equates to a steady trot for the dogs, with the odd spurt of speed. When they start looking hot or tired, then its a steady speed to get home. I don't ride with the dogs on footpaths or roads (we are lucky to have open fields locally) as I would be concerned about cars/Ped interaction.