Best rim brakes

father_jack
father_jack Posts: 3,509
edited July 2015 in Commuting general
Out of these which is the best?

Tektro R315 57mm deep drop
Tektro C-310 V-Brake
Tektro 926AL Front And Rear Mini V Brakes

I'd want to have mudguards fitted.
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Comments

  • saladdays
    saladdays Posts: 92
    It depends on your bike,
    Tektro R315 57mm deep drop for a road bike.
    Tektro C-310 V-Brake for a hybrid.
    Tektro 926AL Front And Rear Mini V Brakes for a cyclocross bike.
  • gbsahne001
    gbsahne001 Posts: 1,973
    It depends on your bike,
    Tektro R315 57mm deep drop for a road bike.
    Tektro C-310 V-Brake for a hybrid.
    Tektro 926AL Front And Rear Mini V Brakes for a cyclocross bike.

    mini V's will work from drop bar levers, provided you a) position them quite close to the rim and b) have cantilever / V brake mounting on the frame and fork for them
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    From his other thread he doesn't know if he has disc or rim brakes anyway, so all rather acedemic!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    I am interested in a few bikes, that are similar but different.

    Genesis Day One v brake
    Genesis Flyer deep drop
    On One Pompino mini v
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    So ask for suggestions on the bike as a whole package, if you are looking to change something straight away (other than contact points) you bought the wrong bike!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    Bizarre - you are basing your purchasing between 3 bikes based on the brakes?

    Fit and comfort of the bike is far more important.

    Most brakes on most bikes are perfectly adequate for the job of stopping you. Most brakes can be improved by changing the stock pads for some thing like Swissstop, Koolstop etc.

    Well setup V Brakes, Mini Vs or deep drop calipers will all perform about the same in my experiences.

    But choose the bike based on other factors than what brake model or variety it has.
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    "Bizarre - you are basing your purchasing between 3 bikes based on the brakes?"

    It's not difficult to understand genesis day one and day one disc are the same bike, only difference is the brakes.

    Pros and cons of each, plus another bike (similar) has mini v, and another similar bike has dual pivot calipers.

    No shops have any of those bikes in stock or in demo, so issue of fit & comfort is moot.
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Explain the usage you have in mind and the bikes you are thinking of and people will critique it all for you in one post instead of 4 or 5 (or however many you have now).
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    "Bizarre - you are basing your purchasing between 3 bikes based on the brakes?"

    It's not difficult to understand genesis day one and day one disc are the same bike, only difference is the brakes.

    Pros and cons of each, plus another bike (similar) has mini v, and another similar bike has dual pivot calipers.

    No shops have any of those bikes in stock or in demo, so issue of fit & comfort is moot.

    Well set up mini Vs and we'll set up dual pivot calipers will perform just as well as each other in my experiences. I have owned bikes with every type of rim brake on and they all perform about the same if you know what you are doing (particularly with old school cantis, which can be fiddly to setup but perform very well when done so). As I said, most stock pads can be improved on.

    Don't get hung up on what brakes or other equipment a bike has - within a price bracket, they are all pretty much the same give or take. The manufacturers are all constrained by similar parameters and whilst one might have slightly better wheels (let's say), compromises may have been made on the brake levers (let's say) to achieve that.

    Fit and comfort is key. If you can not find a bike shop with the models you are interested in, then find a better bike shop or choose a different model.
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    what about in the wet and snowy conditions? The deep drop brakes are fine in the dry but pretty terrible in downpours.

    Granted you don't brake much on country lane ride, but when you do you need them to work
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    what about in the wet and snowy conditions? The deep drop brakes are fine in the dry but pretty terrible in downpours.

    Granted you don't brake much on country lane ride, but when you do you need them to work

    Is that from personal experience? Or something you read on the Internet?

    I ride two bikes with deep drop brakes - they work perfectly in snow, rain, big mountains. I have never once run out of road and I do ride quite a long way from time to time.

    Is all you want someone to say is "rims brakes are rubbish, you are right, get disk brakes"?
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    I have rim and disc brakes myself. with v brakes the cable is a bit more exposed/not vertical like side pull brakes and found around noodle cable gets stuff in it (even with the boot)

    canti brakes were rubbish though
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    I'm done.

    Good luck in your search.
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    wow this sub forum is full of assholes.
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    No, only one to be honest, but it sounds like they are leaving now.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • wow this sub forum is full of assholes.

    Have you got a balcony?
    I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    bought a single speed bike. It has rim brakes, deep drop. Although I get rim wear, wheelsets are pretty cheap, and standard wheels are easily available.

    I think each of them has pros and cons, especially with single speed & horizontal drop outs.

    I have a set of nice Campag Vento I could use, but those are campag cassette 9 speed, with QR so need to get them changed over to solid axle and cassette converter.
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    bought a single speed bike. It has rim brakes, deep drop. Although I get rim wear, wheelsets are pretty cheap, and standard wheels are easily available.

    I think each of them has pros and cons, especially with single speed & horizontal drop outs.

    I have a set of nice Campag Vento I could use, but those are campag cassette 9 speed, with QR so need to get them changed over to solid axle and cassette converter.

    I may be an asshole, but here's something you may want to consider.

    If you've bought a proper single speed frame based on track spacing, it will be 120mm at the rear.

    A Campag Vento wheel will be 130mm spacing.

    There may be trouble ahead.
  • father_jack
    father_jack Posts: 3,509
    That's a shame as I bet nicer wheels than stock. Just checked OLD of rear hub it's 120mm.
    Say... That's a nice bike..
    Trax T700 with Lew Racing Pro VT-1 ;-)
  • Matthewfalle
    Matthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.