Regents Park - CS11 Plans

Hindmost
Hindmost Posts: 57
edited March 2016 in Road general
This will be of interest to anyone that rides in Regents Park, one of London's most important training areas for cyclists. To keep it short - there is a possibility that speed humps could be put in place as part of the CS11 plans.

If you use Regents Park and oppose the plans, please join the Facebook group to get involved.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/regentsparkcycling/
With the upcoming introduction of the cycling super-highway (CS11)
through Regent's Park, various groups and organizations have taken the
opportunity to think about how Regent's Park is used.

Various CS11 proposals are being looked at in Regent's Park. Closing
some or all of the gates to motor traffic during peak times is being
considered, which likely make cycling in the park a much safer
proposition.

Additionally however, proposals for multiple speed humps and or a
20mph limit for motorcyclists and cycles could negatively impact the
ability to exercise on a bike around the outer circle.

It would impact thousands of road cyclists who use a unique area of
London to cycle and train safely.

An action group is being formed from various clubs and cycling bodies
to try to mitigate the risk of this happening. If you would like to be
involved, please join the page on Facebook.

Comments

  • frisbee
    frisbee Posts: 691
    The speed bumps will cause more accidents than cars.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,379
    what's the source of these proposals?

    i'm not on fb, nor will i join it, i'd rather go direct to the public bodies that should be giving opportunity to comment during the planning/decision process
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • izza
    izza Posts: 1,561
    One of the reasons given by locals/residents/etc. is that cyclists continue to jump red lights in the park.

    We have to work on getting our house in order' and start telling riders who continue to jump red lights that they could be affecting all of us.
  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,379
    yes, there's a small number of real twats who use the park, not just rljing but poor bike handling/behaviour that puts others at risk

    unfortunately they seem oblivious to comment from others
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • A petition has been started: Stop The Royal Parks using TFL cycling funds for anti-cycling infrastructure

    If you could take a minute to sign/share and show your support for cycling in Regent's Park, that'd be much appreciated.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106967

    Also, the Royal Parks tweeted this last night:-

    https://twitter.com/theroyalparks/status/642008862279774208

    It might be a good opportunity to let them know what you think before the consultation phase.
  • rpherts
    rpherts Posts: 207
    Why not put in loads of those horrible "traffic island" choke points too, giving drivers more opportunities to overtake dangerously close.

    Then, paint a one foot wide green strip at the side of the road and voila! You have the classic British cycle provision, ten times worse than riding on the plain road which was there before and costing a fortune.
  • Would a 'flattened' part of a speed bump be a consideration? Perhaps say 1 metre long, so that cars could not take advantage but cyclists could pass through the speed bump? Or is this being too simplistic?

    Thinking about it a little more, this actually might be more dangerous as it may cause a bottle-neck of cyclists waiting to use it.
  • Surely it's a win-win-win. The Royal Parks get shiny new speed bumps paid for by someone else, TfL can pat themselves on the back and point to all the infrastructure they've installed for cyclists, and we get to practice bunny-hopping on and off speed bumps. The only people who will struggle is the triathletes, and they are already in contravention of Rule 42 so who cares about them?
  • what's the source of these proposals?

    i'm not on fb, nor will i join it, i'd rather go direct to the public bodies that should be giving opportunity to comment during the planning/decision process

    The guys at http://regentsparkcyclists.com have been actively involved in the pre-consultation meetings hosted by TFL, Royal Parks & Westminster COUncil over the last 6 months. However they (and the many London clubs who share a love of the Park - see the website) believe they're being and will continue to be ignored. Of course you can wait for the TFL public consultation which will start pre-Christmas (which will not be done on Facebook!) - but they're trying to influence both TfL and the Royal Parks in advance of this.
    Many of the cyclists involved want to be able to support the CS11 proposals: the petition, Facebook group and indeed the fundraising they're doing for new trees in the Park are all aimed at encouraging a pro-cycling version of CS11 in the consultation
  • Zoodax on the 3rd October...
    On the 3rd October, Justin McKie, chair of the Regent’s Park Cyclists
    group, will be cycling around the Outer Circle of Regent’s Park 113
    times to complete 500km. He will be raising money for The Regent's
    Park Cherry Tree Fund.

    http://uk.virginmoneygiving.com/team/RegentsParkCyclists

    Why?

    Cyclists numbers have grown in London and in Regent's Park
    particularly and we want to say thanks.

    With pollution levels killing thousands each year we need more trees
    (and less cars). With cyclists getting killed in London, Regent's Park
    is our safe haven to exercise in London. There are no others.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    They're doing 500K round the park today!
  • Hindmost
    Hindmost Posts: 57
    Final week to have your say in the consultation.

    A link to RPC guideline responses:-

    http://regentsparkcyclists.com/how-to-r ... tion-form/

    An update from Regent's Park Cyclists...
    Hi all,

    As many of you already know, the consultation is scheduled to finish
    this week.

    We are at a critical stage of the whole CS11 / No speed hump campaign.
    WE NEED YOUR HELP NOW!
    Background
    As you will know RPC managed to reduce the original plan to put 14 speed humps down to 4, which along with gate closures
    North and South (open only from 11-3) puts recreational / sports /
    disabled cyclists in a better position than when we started. But that
    position is not secure yet.
    Platform designs
    More recently, holding back our Pro CS11 votes pushed Andrew Gilligan / TFL to force TRP to provide more clarity on
    the “heritage friendly” materials they are able to use for these
    platforms. They agreed no cobbles or rough surfaces! It has been a
    massive battle.
    We now need to win CS11
    There was an un-veiled threat that without CS11, TRP may very well revert back to other designs, which
    will most likely be against our longer-term interest.
    What we need from you
    In simple terms, we need the CS11 Consultation to succeed and go ahead, but we are up against it –
    because a STOP CS11 group have been working hard to gain votes against
    the plans.
    How can you help?
    Each of us needs to complete the consultation and gather as many additional responses as we can.
    https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/cycling/cs-11