Scott Foil headset assembly?

primalcarl
primalcarl Posts: 579
edited June 2015 in Workshop
I've received a replacement Scott Foil frame under warranty but the headset/forks weren't assembled.

The headset only has:

upper bearing
lower bearing
split-crown
upper bearing cover

Should there be any other components? Does the upper bearing sit straight into the frame?

Thanks!
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Do they fit?

    Sounds like an integrated headset.

    More info can be read on parktools website.
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  • primalcarl
    primalcarl Posts: 579
    It doesn't seem quite right no. I can't find anything to clarify, except a photo here which appears to show what looks like a bearing race that would sit in the frame?

    rp9QQBt.jpg
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  • pippi_langsamer-2
    pippi_langsamer-2 Posts: 1,470
    Sounds right. They just press straight in. Split ring sits inside upper bearing.
  • cyclosteve
    cyclosteve Posts: 150
    yes the large bearing goes straight into frame and same with the small up top.as simple as that I got a foil replaced bearings took old out and replaced new in same way no more creaking job done simple
  • primalcarl
    primalcarl Posts: 579
    So the upper bearing sits straight into the frame on the carbon?

    Here's a photo

    18683362210_7335bf10e0_c.jpg20150616_215814_resized by Carl Spiers, on Flickr
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  • pippi_langsamer-2
    pippi_langsamer-2 Posts: 1,470
    Ok, so no- the frames usually ship with the upper bearing collar already pressed in.

    That black bit beneath the Ritchey top cap in your first picture- that needs to be pressed into the upper first and then plonk the bearing in....
  • primalcarl
    primalcarl Posts: 579
    Yeah that's what I thought, cheers! Have emailed the shop that sent it
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  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    My CR1 frameset, sealed box, straight from Scott, came with the pressfit BB installed but the head tube completely bare and the headset components in a bag. Had to press in upper and lower alloy cups using a DIY headset press (threaded rod, nuts, washers, spacers) before dropping in the bearings themselves.

    Odd that you seem to have 2 bearings but only one alloy cup in the photo. Have you already pressed in the lower one? Also cannot see a crown race; have you fitted that to the fork?

    (That looks like the very same Ritchey WCS headset I have. If so, there's no split ring mentioned in an earlier post)
  • primalcarl
    primalcarl Posts: 579
    That photo above is not mine but one I found online.

    From what I can gather, the fork steerer base is tapered to accept the bearing so doesn't need a race. The bottom bearing seems to fit snugly into the frame so I'm unsure if that should have a press fit cup too. Argh!
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  • pippi_langsamer-2
    pippi_langsamer-2 Posts: 1,470
    I don't think the lower bearings require the press-in collar/ race...

    Both my Foil and Addict also had the thin, split washer for the upper bearing.

    This shows the correct gubbins you should have:

    1366275233-19169800.jpg

    Note only the upper press-in "cup", for the smaller upper bearing and the silver split-ring...

    If you're lucky, you might be able to press the upper cup in by hand. It doesn't take much. You could even get away with a rubber mallet :lol: if you're very, very careful LOL. Otherwise, either knock-up a home-made press, or whizz it into your lbs and they'll do it in about 5 secs...

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