Mount Teide, how does it work?
Just wondering how this training destination works. I have been to Sierra Nevada in southern Spain and the Ski resort is at 2500m. So an athlete would sleep at the ski resort and then train lower down near Granada at the lower 800m altitude. This is based on the "Sleep high, train low" training regime.
I've been on my Hols to Mount Teide where the Mountain is lower and there didn't seem to be any buildings anywhere near the top or even close to the altitude of Sierra Nevada. Both locations have good weather.
So why do they go to Teide?
I've been on my Hols to Mount Teide where the Mountain is lower and there didn't seem to be any buildings anywhere near the top or even close to the altitude of Sierra Nevada. Both locations have good weather.
So why do they go to Teide?
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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Just wondering how this training destination works. I have been to Sierra Nevada in southern Spain and the Ski resort is at 2500m. So an athlete would sleep at the ski resort and then train lower down near Granada at the lower 800m altitude. This is based on the "Sleep high, train low" training regime.
I've been on my Hols to Mount Teide where the Mountain is lower and there didn't seem to be any buildings anywhere near the top or even close to the altitude of Sierra Nevada. Both locations have good weather.
So why do they go to Teide?
You must have missed this:
http://www.parador.es/es/paradores/parador-de-las-canadas-del-teide
At about the 2200 metre mark.
When I went up Tiede the other week, the weather was 23C up there."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Cycling in Tenerife, Mount Teide, or no Mount Teide, is awesome.
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This was my second visit last year, 2014, went again in February 2015, didn't remember camera and I did some longer rides and got way up in the mountains.
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be careful to pick your time of year, we went in march two years ago and the roads near the top were shut due to snow. we had to wait until the last two days of our holidays to get to the top. Team sky were snow bound for a few days.
the ride to the top was worth it though.--
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Never mind the altitude, the weather, the roads, the traffic etc etc, what's the beer like......I'm not getting old... I'm just using lower gears......
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I went to Sierra Nevada last year - and am just booking another trip this year. But I "live high, train high". It's a bit harder, but a bigger boost.
Basically ride down the hill to the bottom and climb back up - then stay up top at night. Repeat. Repeat. And so on.
Some days I train at the lower altitudes (but it's still between 700-1000m) so not exactly sea level.
I found this (for me) to be far better than "live high, train low".0 -
Why Teide?
I think the loonies in the Clinic will say people go because it's relatively inaccessible for dope testing so it's where Froome and friends (and now other teams too) do all their mysterious drug stuff.Giant Trance X 2010
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[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19625647#p19625647]the article don[/url] wrote:Why Teide?
I think the loonies in the Clinic will say people go because it's relatively inaccessible for dope testing so it's where Froome and friends (and now other teams too) do all their mysterious drug stuff.
Nah, they can do it right in front of the testers and the tests won't pick it up these days.0 -
[url=http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=19625647#p19625647]the article don[/url] wrote:Why Teide?
I think the loonies in the Clinic will say people go because it's relatively inaccessible for dope testing so it's where Froome and friends (and now other teams too) do all their mysterious drug stuff.
AG2R were at the Lauteret - a landslide on the Briancon end and a tunnel collapse on the Grenoble end meant no dope testers getting in. :-)BASI Nordic Ski Instructor
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Bit upset to be honest that no-one has commented on how nice my pictures are.
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don't think the mountain does any work. It's very lazy and just sits there doing nothing
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Bit upset to be honest that no-one has commented on how nice my pictures are.
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This was a hire bike, not great but did the job;
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be careful to pick your time of year, we went in march two years ago and the roads near the top were shut due to snow. we had to wait until the last two days of our holidays to get to the top. Team sky were snow bound for a few days.
the ride to the top was worth it though.
I was there the same week (first week in March 2013) - there was a hellish storm the day after we arrived - it was a bit grim tbh
that being said, it's a great place to train..... the same week in 2012 was circa 30 degrees centigrade0 -
be careful to pick your time of year, we went in march two years ago and the roads near the top were shut due to snow. we had to wait until the last two days of our holidays to get to the top. Team sky were snow bound for a few days.
the ride to the top was worth it though.
I was there the same week (first week in March 2013) - there was a hellish storm the day after we arrived - it was a bit grim tbh
that being said, it's a great place to train..... the same week in 2012 was circa 30 degrees centigrade
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Is it not quite windy?0
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OOH! Lovely photos of Tenerife.
Some years ago, I worked in a Doctor's Surgery where he said about sleep high, train low. This was so your red blood cells increase overnight and when you train low you can increase your power with larger amounts of oxygen and your increased red blood cells. Training high where there is not much oxygen means your muscles aren't being worked hard enough. When I went to Sierra Nevada, I ducked under the barrier to go up to the 3400m height where I was spinning a tiny gear and was hardly going anywhere plus not generating much heat so I froze my butt off. Almost got hypothermia up there.
I spent a week in Los Cristainos and Teide did seem to be in low cloud quite a bit.
The altitude does work especially if its 10 days to 2 weeks and is way cheaper than a new bike. “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
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OOH! Lovely photos of Tenerife.
why, thank you, yes they are nice aren't they...0 -
first attempt, got to villaflore,
3rd attempt, got up to top, some pics on the way.
on the way back down, had to pass through the area of strong winds and clouds.
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I spent a week in Tenerife earlier in the year, and went up Tiede a few times, from the Los Christianos side. There were quite a few of the pro teams to be seen on the road, and I managed to have a quick chat with some of the Sky guys. They were staying in Vilaflor, but were moving up to the Parador later in the week, - it seems like rooms there are at a premium, and the place isn't big enough to meet the pro demands. They did all of their training between Vilaflor and the caldera lip, and didn't really venture to the lower slopes, - so for them it was about training at altitude, with some hard reps near the top.0
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Oh come on, shouldn't there at least be a subduction zone in there somewhere?Warning No formatter is installed for the format0 -
Vilaflor seems about 1500m and Parador about 2300m. Seems odd to me to train high as the muscles aren't working that hard due to the lack of oxygen. I'm sure they're right though.
The pine trees up there have special long needles which collect the mist and then the water drops off to the ground where it waters the ground. Not much rain but a fair bit of low cloud up there.
Map of tenerife- http://www.tenerife-training.net/Tenerife-Road-Map/Detailed-Tenerife-Road-Map.gif“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
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I guess you can achieve the same with bunk beds.0
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Oh come on, shouldn't there at least be a subduction zone in there somewhere?
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