TTTs - what's faster
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Paceline or chaingang?
Chaingang feels easier, and paceline you are in the wind for longer.
Pros always seem to be in paceline mode, but that doesn't make sense (from my very pathetic experiences)
Whichever one Cofidis don't do.0 -
The constant rotation ignores different riders strengths, however. You are placing as much weight on Quintana's TT as Dowsett's for example.
It also requires more effort in organisation on the road"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Chaingang is circular paceline in my understanding0
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chaingang is certainly more stressful than paceline and is useful for moderate bursts ie final chase down of break in last 10 km - but paceline is smooth and efficient (hence why the break adapts it) - should be a slight echelon depending on wind direction
the first picture is just a clubrun? although most now only one rider comes pulls over to other line and the line moves up one side
time on front: chaingang - 5-10 seconds , paceline 30 - 60 secs double line 5 minutes -
or 3 minutes for some and 6 for others if you've ever trained with Mark Lovatt
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Chaingang is circular paceline in my understanding
Was my understanding too.Team My Man 2018: David gaudu, Pierre Latour, Romain Bardet, Thibaut pinot, Alexandre Geniez, Florian Senechal, Warren Barguil, Benoit Cosnefroy0 -
I was just guessing. So you two are right.Chaingang is circular paceline in my understanding
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Paceline is less stressful to manage riders of different speeds too.
Paceline gives a bit more control for riders like Pozzovivo who are swinging as soon as the pace goes above 50kph.
And you lose a bike length a lot less often
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My understanding of a chaingang is that they're fairer too, so easier to arrange when riding with competitors. Everyone does the same stint - short so no-one is blowing too hard incase someone makes a move.
No need to worry about that in a TTT.0 -
Isn't one faster and one better for endurance. Short TTTs therefore use a different technique to a breakaway.0
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To have a team of riders all working at their maximum in a chaingang they'd all need to be of equal strength. As others have mentioned, single file pacelines allow stronger riders to do longer turns and weaker riders to do shorter turns. In a chaingang you're either part of the rotation and doing an equal share of the work, sitting in at the back or dropped.
As an aside even in the team pursuit, where you'd expect all riders to be at a very similar level, some riders will do longer turns than others.0 -
The one and only time I've ridden a TTT, we started off riding chaingang stylee, and abandoned that approach after the first 5 miles...its too hard if there is only a few of you...four in my case. You're forever jumping onto the wheel coming passed. Same applies to a break in a RR.0
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I do kind of agree and I suppose the pros know best anyway.
I thought 6-8 men was optimal for a chaingang so assumed that would be best.
In any case, when you see breakaways, sometimes they chaingang, sometimes they paceline.0 -
Circumstantial. depends also on the quality of riders. The best/ easiest place to be in a paceline is 4th or 5th ( and thats where a protected rider will often sit, for a while at least). Chaingangs wear you down a little quicker especially when you've a numpty that doesn't pay attention, then sprints onto the wheel in front, leaving a gap... that does my conkers in...0
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A chaingang can only go at the strength of the weakest member, it's "fair" so in any race situation where there are multiple teams racing and enough people you'll do a chaingang because that way you can guarantee there aren't people getting a free-ride. However it's significantly slower than a paceline even when you're evenly matched, let alone when varying strengths come in to play.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0
