Carbon seatpost weight limits

wishitwasallflat
wishitwasallflat Posts: 2,927
edited June 2015 in Road buying advice
Hi,

Does anyone know of a good Carbon seatpost that either doesn't have rider weight limit or has a very high one! I'm looking for a post and so far have only found syntace p6 which has a limit of 130kg and Specialised which has blanket 100kg limit on all carbon components. I weigh 17.5 stone (112kg) so only p6 is in range for me so far but best price I could find us £160 odd from Germany!

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  • sungod
    sungod Posts: 17,151
    easton ec90 ?

    i'd check with easton to be sure tech@eastoncycling.com

    but this suggests it'd be ok...

    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... -11-45250/

    whichever post you get, i'd go long to make sure there's plenty in the seat tube
    my bike - faster than god's and twice as shiny
  • sungod wrote:
    easton ec90 ?
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    i'd check with easton to be sure tech@eastoncycling.com

    but this suggests it'd be ok...

    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... -11-45250/

    whichever post you get, i'd go long to make sure there's plenty in the seat tube

    Looks interesting I've emailed Easton to check as you suggest - many thanks.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Might be worth asking Canyon if there's a limit for their VCLS post. Good post but I've never seen a weight limit listed for it. The VCLS 2.0 will not be suitable but the standard VCLS may.
  • Ai_1 wrote:
    Might be worth asking Canyon if there's a limit for their VCLS post. Good post but I've never seen a weight limit listed for it. The VCLS 2.0 will not be suitable but the standard VCLS may.

    Thanks - I did find reference to canyon saying vcls2 limited to 83kg because of them slipping even at max torque and canyon swapping them for vcls ones for people who had that problem but I couldn't find any ref to any weight limit for vcls. Ive emailed them now and will post replies from them and Easton once I get them for anyone searching in the future.
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Ai_1 wrote:
    Might be worth asking Canyon if there's a limit for their VCLS post. Good post but I've never seen a weight limit listed for it. The VCLS 2.0 will not be suitable but the standard VCLS may.

    Thanks - I did find reference to canyon saying vcls2 limited to 83kg because of them slipping even at max torque and canyon swapping them for vcls ones for people who had that problem but I couldn't find any ref to any weight limit for vcls. Ive emailed them now and will post replies from them and Easton once I get them for anyone searching in the future.
    Yeah, I originally got the VCLS 2.0 with my Canyon last year but had problems with it slipping (I'm around 85-86kg). They sent me a standard VCLS and I've been very happy with that ever since. It's a very tidy post and gives excellent adjustability.
    Unlike the bendy VCLS 2.0 it's hard to know if it's having much effect on comfort (the bike's very comfortable regardless) but I believe third part tests showed it compared well with most other carbon seatposts in that respect.
  • Ai_1 wrote:
    Ai_1 wrote:
    Might be worth asking Canyon if there's a limit for their VCLS post. Good post but I've never seen a weight limit listed for it. The VCLS 2.0 will not be suitable but the standard VCLS may.

    Thanks - I did find reference to canyon saying vcls2 limited to 83kg because of them slipping even at max torque and canyon swapping them for vcls ones for people who had that problem but I couldn't find any ref to any weight limit for vcls. Ive emailed them now and will post replies from them and Easton once I get them for anyone searching in the future.
    Yeah, I originally got the VCLS 2.0 with my Canyon last year but had problems with it slipping (I'm around 85-86kg). They sent me a standard VCLS and I've been very happy with that ever since. It's a very tidy post and gives excellent adjustability.
    Unlike the bendy VCLS 2.0 it's hard to know if it's having much effect on comfort (the bike's very comfortable regardless) but I believe third part tests showed it compared well with most other carbon seatposts in that respect.

    Well got a reply from canyon saying the vcls has a rider weight limit of 80kg! Make of that what you will vcls has. Limit of 83kg or it slips and they replace it with one with a limit of 80kg! Some thing smells of bs there but it's way out of range for me anyway so it's not an option.

    Wiggle say Easton don't list a weight limit for the ec90 but I haven't got a reply from the Easton tech email address that sungod posted so I will post that if/when I get one as I would not want to end up blaming anyone ...
  • ai_1
    ai_1 Posts: 3,060
    Ai_1 wrote:
    Ai_1 wrote:
    Might be worth asking Canyon if there's a limit for their VCLS post. Good post but I've never seen a weight limit listed for it. The VCLS 2.0 will not be suitable but the standard VCLS may.

    Thanks - I did find reference to canyon saying vcls2 limited to 83kg because of them slipping even at max torque and canyon swapping them for vcls ones for people who had that problem but I couldn't find any ref to any weight limit for vcls. Ive emailed them now and will post replies from them and Easton once I get them for anyone searching in the future.
    Yeah, I originally got the VCLS 2.0 with my Canyon last year but had problems with it slipping (I'm around 85-86kg). They sent me a standard VCLS and I've been very happy with that ever since. It's a very tidy post and gives excellent adjustability.
    Unlike the bendy VCLS 2.0 it's hard to know if it's having much effect on comfort (the bike's very comfortable regardless) but I believe third part tests showed it compared well with most other carbon seatposts in that respect.

    Well got a reply from canyon saying the vcls has a rider weight limit of 80kg! Make of that what you will vcls has. Limit of 83kg or it slips and they replace it with one with a limit of 80kg! Some thing smells of bs there but it's way out of range for me anyway so it's not an option.

    Wiggle say Easton don't list a weight limit for the ec90 but I haven't got a reply from the Easton tech email address that sungod posted so I will post that if/when I get one as I would not want to end up blaming anyone ...
    I suspect you've got the answer for the VCLS 2.0.
    Otherwise I should be concerned!

    However I'm pretty sure I remember reading something from Canyon saying all their bikes are okay for 100kg unless wheel spec was lower. The VCLS is standard issue on most of their Ultimate CF SL and SLX bikes. The reduced spec on the VCLS was a change after it came to market due to clamping issues. So i'd expect the standard VCLS post spec to be 100kg at a minimum.

    One way or the other, you're hardly to spend time second guessing them if they've told you 80kg.
  • Spudboy
    Spudboy Posts: 101
    Deda Superzero - I can vouch from experience (of the 31.6mm) it will be fine at your weight and is generally an excellent post. From memory the 31.6 mm comes in at 220g (actual) so it's not silly light but you don't want that anyway.
  • Well got a reply from canyon saying the vcls has a rider weight limit of 80kg! Make of that what you will vcls has. Limit of 83kg or it slips and they replace it with one with a limit of 80kg! Some thing smells of bs there but it's way out of range for me anyway so it's not an option.

    Wiggle say Easton don't list a weight limit for the ec90 but I haven't got a reply from the Easton tech email address that sungod posted so I will post that if/when I get one as I would not want to end up blaming anyone ...

    I suspect you've got the answer for the VCLS 2.0.

    Yea that's what I guessed as well (lost in translation maybe?)

    Otherwise I should be concerned!

    However I'm pretty sure I remember reading something from Canyon saying all their bikes are okay for 100kg unless wheel spec was lower. The VCLS is standard issue on most of their Ultimate CF SL and SLX bikes. The reduced spec on the VCLS was a change after it came to market due to clamping issues. So i'd expect the standard VCLS post spec to be 100kg at a minimum.

    One way or the other, you're hardly to spend time second guessing them if they've told you 80kg.

    I think your right but having had that reply I don't feel like pursuing it - even if the limit for the vcls is 100kg (which I suspect it is) its still not in my range.

    Feck its depressing being a fat cyclist the world just isn't set up for us!
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  • Spudboy wrote:
    Deda Superzero - I can vouch from experience (of the 31.6mm) it will be fine at your weight and is generally an excellent post. From memory the 31.6 mm comes in at 220g (actual) so it's not silly light but you don't want that anyway.

    Good man thanks for that but my seat tube is 27.2 but it seems theres no weight limit on them anyway -

    http://www.wekeepyoucycling.com/en/p-13 ... tpost.aspx

    but as it seems is always the case with this question contradictions abound - third question

    http://answers.chainreactioncycles.com/ ... stions.htm

    I think I'm probably heading back to Thomson Elite as I just don't fancy any doubt at all under my bits ... Thanks to all for the suggestions though
  • For completeness got this reply from Easton about the EC90 setback seatpost:

    We do not have weight limits for any of our parts or wheels, but if you feel that you may be too hard on the component then the alloy may be a better product for you.

    Thanks,

    BRANDON THOMSON | Customer Service & Sales Manager | RACE FACE & EASTON CYCLING
    604.415.2364 | raceface.com | eastoncycling.com


    So nice clear answer - chapeau to Easton for having confidence in their products.
    ( ... nothing about using it in the rain though, so that fear lingers ... :shock: )
  • eddiefiola
    eddiefiola Posts: 344
    Maybe I missed it but why does it have to be Carbon?

    btw I'm 97kgs and cracked an FSA K Force, to be fair though that may have been me over torquing the clamp.
  • Maybe I missed it but why does it have to be Carbon?

    btw I'm 97kgs and cracked an FSA K Force, to be fair though that may have been me over torquing the clamp.

    Doesn't necessarily have to be its just that many say they are more comfy and I fancy one for a change but have always been worried about durability and mode of failure (if it should fail!).
  • Spudboy
    Spudboy Posts: 101
    [/quote]

    Doesn't necessarily have to be its just that many say they are more comfy and I fancy one for a change but have always been worried about durability and mode of failure (if it should fail!).[/quote]

    You're worrying too much.
  • eddiefiola
    eddiefiola Posts: 344
    Maybe I missed it but why does it have to be Carbon?

    btw I'm 97kgs and cracked an FSA K Force, to be fair though that may have been me over torquing the clamp.

    Doesn't necessarily have to be its just that many say they are more comfy and I fancy one for a change but have always been worried about durability and mode of failure (if it should fail!).

    Can't say I noticed a difference, I bought it for the setback rather than it being Carbon, a few less psi in tires would do more for comfort than a carbon seatpost.

  • Doesn't necessarily have to be its just that many say they are more comfy and I fancy one for a change but have always been worried about durability and mode of failure (if it should fail!).

    [/quote]You're worrying too much.[/quote]

    Over the years I've spent hours lying on couches and thousands speaking to highly qualified therapists and you got me correctly from reading a few posts :D you are a genius!
  • OfficerDigby
    OfficerDigby Posts: 110
    Probably a better fitting saddle and or bigger tyres could solve issues.

    I have VCLS 1.0 and can get quite a bit of flex a 92-95kg.

    I think I remember Trek do all their bikes to 120kg limit so ant ole Trek carbon post shodl be good enough..
  • trek_dan
    trek_dan Posts: 1,366
    Go alu. Thomson are the best.
    Do carbon seatposts make any difference? Had both over the years and honestly can't tell the difference.
  • Bobbinogs
    Bobbinogs Posts: 4,841
    Agree with the above. If I was over 100kg I would forget about faffing with carbon posts, bling factory wheels and other minor distractions and accept that sleek racing machines are not best suited. I would buy a decent CX bike with an alu post, disc brakes and good frame clearance and run 28+mm tyres at the right pressure.
  • If I was over 100kg I would forget about faffing with carbon posts, bling factory wheels and other minor distractions and accept that sleek racing machines are not best suited.
    That tinkling noise you may be able to hear in the background are my dreams shattering :cry:

    PS I know your right, but I still hate you :)
  • Spudboy
    Spudboy Posts: 101
    If I was over 100kg I would forget about faffing with carbon posts, bling factory wheels and other minor distractions and accept that sleek racing machines are not best suited.
    That tinkling noise you may be able to hear in the background are my dreams shattering :cry:

    PS I know your right, but I still hate you :)

    Honestly, we're talking carbon fibre here not cheese. If you are 17.5 stone a carbon fibre race frame and post is not going to dissolve under you. Sure, it's probably not wise to go and buy a 700g carbon frame or silly light carbon seatpost with weight limit restrictions but if you were to want a decent carbon frame with a nice looking carbon seatpost from the likes of Deda, 3T, Easton et al then go for it - you will fly along, feel great and the bike will look great and perform superbly (assuming thast's the sort of riding you want). 23c tyres will work fine, 25c tyres will be preferable and if you have clearance for 28c then fine but 25c will be great.

    Wheels are a different issue as has been said. Some factory wheels will doubtless be fine but why take the risk? Handbuilts are the sensible choice for a heavier than average rider.

    Dreams need not be shattered. Don't kid yourself that a carbon post is going to magically make a huge difference to comfort it won't. Arguably it will look nicer and if that matters then go for it.

    As an example I use, horror of horrors, a carbon railed saddle and I'm over 17 stone. It's a Fizik Aliante and although it was originally purchased out of vanity I find the carbon base to be stiffer and better than the standard Aliante on the winter/commuter bike. Again not necessary but if you want it...

    Carbon won't make you faster but if you fancy a bit of carbon bling then treat yourself!