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Rockshox Revelation RL 140mm Adjustable?

Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
edited June 2015 in MTB workshop & tech
Hey all, I'm looking at getting the Orange Crush AM 2015:

https://www.orangebikes.co.uk/bikes/crush-am

It comes with the Rockshox Revelation RL 140mm:

https://www.sram.com/rockshox/products/revelation-rl

It has "Dual Position Air" which:
If you want to ride up and walk down, a fork that only does one thing well is great. But you love epic ascents, technical descents, winding single track and everything in between. So you need a fork that tackles it all. Like our Dual Position Air. It changes your fork’s travel up to 30mm without changing its small bump performance. So, with a simple onboard turn and a click you can switch from climbing like a demon to bombing downhill with confidence.

So does that mean that this fork has adjustable travel?

Thanks!

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  • rockmonkeyscrockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    Yes
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  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    RockmonkeySC wrote:
    Yes

    Thanks for confirming, I just find it odd that the Orange website made no mention of the adjustable forks? Seem's like a worthwhile feature to mention!

    How difficult is it to adjust the travel on these forks by the way?
  • rockmonkeyscrockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    Turn a knob.
    Does the Crush actually have the DPA version of the Revelation RL? Not all are dual position and it's not mentioned on Oranges website.
    I had DPA on my Revelation and maybe used it three or four times in two years. Some bikes just don't need it.
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  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,811
    If you look at the SRAM page properly you will see the fork comes in two spring options, solo air and dual position air, maybe the orange page doesn't mention DPA as it's a solo air version (which it looks like).
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • rockmonkeyscrockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    Dual position air is still solo air as well but some of them have dual position adjustment. Rockshox fortunately dropped dual air a few years ago, a nice idea which didn't really work.
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  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,811
    I know, but I Can't help what SRAM call the two options, can I! None the less it looks like a normal solo air from what I can see of the top of the left hand crown.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    The Rookie wrote:
    I know, but I Can't help what SRAM call the two options, can I! None the less it looks like a normal solo air from what I can see of the top of the left hand crown.

    Ah okay so what adjustments would that fork have?
  • rockmonkeyscrockmonkeysc Posts: 14,774
    Rebound, air pressure and low speed compression. In reality the compression adjuster just works as a lock. You won't find many trail bike forks with much better adjustment. The Revelation is a good, solid fork and much better than the Fox 32 CTD evo a lot of bikes at this price come with.
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  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    RockmonkeySC wrote:
    Rebound, air pressure and low speed compression. In reality the compression adjuster just works as a lock. You won't find many trail bike forks with much better adjustment. The Revelation is a good, solid fork and much better than the Fox 32 CTD evo a lot of bikes at this price come with.

    Ah so it does have a lockout then? This bike will be used for a tiny bit of road biking (trail riding is the priority though) so having a lockout on the 140mm travel would be good i imagine.

    I'm sold, putting the order in tonight on the Orange Crush AM
  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,811
    It doesn't have a lockout, no, but you can set the compression damping to maximum for a road ride which will have much the same effect (lockout forks don't use a mechanical lock, they just set the damping to maximum, non lockout setups don't have quite the maximum damping but it's nit far off).

    Lockout is/was useful on forks with poor or no damping, on modern forks with a good damper it's not really needed, especially on those with separate high and low speed damping circuits, which I believe that one does have.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    The Rookie wrote:
    It doesn't have a lockout, no, but you can set the compression damping to maximum for a road ride which will have much the same effect (lockout forks don't use a mechanical lock, they just set the damping to maximum, non lockout setups don't have quite the maximum damping but it's nit far off).

    Lockout is/was useful on forks with poor or no damping, on modern forks with a good damper it's not really needed, especially on those with separate high and low speed damping circuits, which I believe that one does have.

    Ah thanks for clearing that up for me, much appreciated :)

    Do you think the Orange Crush AM is a good bike then overall?
  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,811
    For what usage?

    Its not a bad bike, but it's not really very good for road riding for sure!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    The Rookie wrote:
    For what usage?

    Its not a bad bike, but it's not really very good for road riding for sure!

    As I said, priority is for trail riding, quite aggressively during the weekend. Road riding and light trails locally during the week.

    I wanted to prioritise aggressive trail riding as that will be the main use for the bike.
  • The RookieThe Rookie Posts: 27,811
    It's not a bad bike, but it's quite expensive for a Taiwanese built bike (Orange import it complete), not a style of bike I'm up on though so I'll lave it to others to comment on possible alternatives.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    The Rookie wrote:
    It's not a bad bike, but it's quite expensive for a Taiwanese built bike (Orange import it complete), not a style of bike I'm up on though so I'll lave it to others to comment on possible alternatives.

    Oh :( I've already ordered it as I saw a review on Bikeradar I believe, and it was very well received (4.5/5 i believe)!
  • Antm81Antm81 Posts: 1,406
    I wouldn't worry too much about it, it won't be a bad bike, orange tend to be a little overpriced compared to others, often with a lower spec, a case of paying for the name a little. The important thing is that you enjoy riding it and I'm sure you will.
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  • Cyph3rsCyph3rs Posts: 69
    Antm81 wrote:
    I wouldn't worry too much about it, it won't be a bad bike, orange tend to be a little overpriced compared to others, often with a lower spec, a case of paying for the name a little. The important thing is that you enjoy riding it and I'm sure you will.

    Ah okay that's true, as long as it's not obviously a terrible bike I guess you're right! Made me feel better about the purchase :)
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