Are brake levers supposed to be loose?

ProBiker55
ProBiker55 Posts: 9
edited June 2015 in MTB workshop & tech
Hello everyone!

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum ; just joined recently. I bought a used hardtail bike for trail riding and xc riding. Keep in mind I barely have any experience in bikes but I do understand the mechanics behind most of the components. Getting to my point, the brake levers on the front are loose for some reason. I asked the owner and he said they were tight before he shipped it. Is there any way to tighten them back? When I say loose, I don't mean they are loose up/down but rather in the direction when you press the brake (hold it in). Any help would be appreciated!

Cheers, George

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  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    You mean they're too easy to pull?

    Or you mean they have play in them?

    Or something else altogether?

    What brakes?
  • njee20 wrote:

    What brakes?

    The front brakes that are controlled by each hand (levers that you pull). What I mean is they have play in them yes. They are not like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vX8bC0n7zec Rather when pulling them. I can literally take a pinkie and wobble it a good cm inward (not vertically like the video shows). Sorry if it's confusing.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    njee20 wrote:
    What brakes?
    As someone who can't be bothered to watch random videos when a word will do, some info helps, like rim/disc, disc/V/canti, hydraulic/cable.
    Perhaps even make and model.
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    And what the heck he actually means by loose!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • Antm81
    Antm81 Posts: 1,406
    Do you mean you can pull the lever before the brakes bite?
  • kajjal
    kajjal Posts: 3,380
    Compared to road bike and other similar brakes the levers on MTB disc brakes do have more play in them but no so much you would ntice it riding
  • What I mean, is that I have to depress the lever to about a 1/2" from the bar before the brakes grip the tire. The brakes are from elixir.
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  • bob6397
    bob6397 Posts: 218
    That's normal. That's the lever moving the pads towards the rotor - at that point the pads actually come into contact with the rotor - without that gap, your pads would be touching the rotor constantly.. :)
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  • bob6397 wrote:
    That's normal. That's the lever moving the pads towards the rotor - at that point the pads actually come into contact with the rotor - without that gap, your pads would be touching the rotor constantly.. :)

    Thank you very much and to everyone who helped!

    Also, one more quick question (don't want to open a new topic). When I ride, I sometimes hear the wheel make a slight squeaky sound. The wheels are both quick release (front and rear). Could this be because I tightened them too tightly? or does tightening them too much not affect anything? The bike came disassembled when shipped so that's why I ask. I don't want to end up having a wheel fall off while riding.

    Another question is about the brakes. When actually riding and applying the brakes,they squeak as well. Does that just mean that they need some brake lubricant? (These are disc brakes I'm talking about)

    Cheers, George
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,692
    Do NOT under any circumstances lubricate your brakes. They may clean up themselves and stop after a while, I wouldn't touch them for a bit.
  • bob6397
    bob6397 Posts: 218
    Squeaking brakes is sort of normal.. mine do it fairly often, normally depending on ambient temp and how wet it is (as in how heavy the rain is) outside.. If they continue to stop you, leave them alone.. :)

    But (As Veronese68 said), do NOT lubricate them - lubricating things means that you are reducing the friction between moving parts - helpful for your chain etc. but not helpful for your brakes (friction is the whole reason that brakes work).

    bob6397
    Boardman HT Team - Hardtail
    Rose Pro-SL 2000 - Roadie
  • bob6397 wrote:
    Squeaking brakes is sort of normal.. mine do it fairly often, normally depending on ambient temp and how wet it is (as in how heavy the rain is) outside.. If they continue to stop you, leave them alone.. :)

    But (As Veronese68 said), do NOT lubricate them - lubricating things means that you are reducing the friction between moving parts - helpful for your chain etc. but not helpful for your brakes (friction is the whole reason that brakes work).

    bob6397

    I understand thank you! What about the actual wheels making that slight noise? It's a faint noise when moving the tire back and forth. Is there such thing as tightening the quick release wheels too much?
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    What does 'moving a tyre back and forth' actually mean?

    ps I think 'Pro' does not mean what you think it means.
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  • cooldad wrote:
    What does 'moving a tyre back and forth' actually mean?

    ps I think 'Pro' does not mean what you think it means.

    I'm pro at riding but not fixing bikes :lol:

    By "moving a tire back and forth" I mean that when I'm on the ground standing and rocking the bike back and forth. Or just walking the bike. It makes a faint sound as though something is too tight (too much friction between something).
  • bob6397
    bob6397 Posts: 218
    That's the caliper not being lined up quite right to the disc (or the disc being slightly warped)

    See this video (from bikeradar) on how to fix it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7I6qlSsGds

    bob6397
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    Rose Pro-SL 2000 - Roadie
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    ProBiker55 wrote:
    I'm pro at riding but not fixing bikes :lol:
    You get paid for riding bikes and yet ask on here about the free play in a brake lever - Wow! Giuess you didn't want to ask your sponsor/team in case they fired you?

    Or maybe you don't understand what pro means!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • cooldad
    cooldad Posts: 32,599
    Could be just heavily ironic?
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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    Well indeed, but I wouldn't discount it being by accident!
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.