What kind of function do you want to increase in bike?
jeffersonduang
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As a maker & rider from Internet, we want to make bicycle more smart, so we want to increase some functions in the bicycle.
Perhaps you is in need of such a function, maybe they are not practical.
In either case, we need your suggestions to help us improve our ideas.
So please show your opinions about the following functions.
1. Radar--- when the people riding could notice(by Handlebar vibration) people the car behind the rider is coming, so make cycling more safely.
2.navigation---The electric motor is placed on both sides of the handlebar. When you riding, Handlebar can guide the direction of vibration(left or right).
3.Headlight---There will be a light in front of the handlebar, so you won't worry about night riding.
4.Anti-lost---There would have a sim card, GPS and a Buzzer in the bicycle. The bicycle can be connected to the phone. You can see where is the bicycle on the phone. When you lock the bicycle on the phone, if somebody else moves the bicycle, your phone will notice you and the same time the buzzer on the bicycle will ring!
Perhaps you is in need of such a function, maybe they are not practical.
In either case, we need your suggestions to help us improve our ideas.
So please show your opinions about the following functions.
1. Radar--- when the people riding could notice(by Handlebar vibration) people the car behind the rider is coming, so make cycling more safely.
2.navigation---The electric motor is placed on both sides of the handlebar. When you riding, Handlebar can guide the direction of vibration(left or right).
3.Headlight---There will be a light in front of the handlebar, so you won't worry about night riding.
4.Anti-lost---There would have a sim card, GPS and a Buzzer in the bicycle. The bicycle can be connected to the phone. You can see where is the bicycle on the phone. When you lock the bicycle on the phone, if somebody else moves the bicycle, your phone will notice you and the same time the buzzer on the bicycle will ring!
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None of the above.Advocate of disc brakes.0
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Fixie with front disc brake, mudguards, clearance for 28c tyres and a frame that takes a native 120mm track wheel on the back.
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He's obviously researching for some college thing, but his ideas are not terrible ones.
I think the tracking idea isn't a bad one. Having some tracker chip embeded within the frame with a SIM card so that you can always call up the location of the bike, useful if it gets stolen but also useful if something happens the wife can track me down.
Another thing which I've often thought would be a good idea to build into a frame is a power distribution system, which may go hand in hand with Di2.
You often have a range of stuff which needs charging, some people have Di2 batteries (not me), but front and rear lights, cycle computer etc, you have to detach them, and open a fiddly flap to plug them into USB charge, then reattach them to the bike once they've charged up.
It would be nice to have a system where they could all stay on the bike and be permanently wired up, then when your bike is at home you have one wire which you plug into it which charges everything up.0 -
Yes I agree, integrated power distribution would make a lot of sense but it would require a lot of standardisation which doesn't currently exist. For example, you would ideally want all light manufacturers to base their designs on a universal mounting system/power connector which could then be incorporated into frame designs. Otherwise you'd end up with a half-assed version where you got a proprietary mount and power connector that required you to buy specific kit for an inflated price and with limited future proofing.markhewitt1978 wrote:He's obviously researching for some college thing, but his ideas are not terrible ones.
I think the tracking idea isn't a bad one. Having some tracker chip embeded within the frame with a SIM card so that you can always call up the location of the bike, useful if it gets stolen but also useful if something happens the wife can track me down.
Another thing which I've often thought would be a good idea to build into a frame is a power distribution system, which may go hand in hand with Di2.
You often have a range of stuff which needs charging, some people have Di2 batteries (not me), but front and rear lights, cycle computer etc, you have to detach them, and open a fiddly flap to plug them into USB charge, then reattach them to the bike once they've charged up.
It would be nice to have a system where they could all stay on the bike and be permanently wired up, then when your bike is at home you have one wire which you plug into it which charges everything up.
To be honest, it makes a massive amount of sense to integrate basic lighting and reflectors in bike frames as standard. It would be pretty easy to embed LEDs in carbon bike frames, seatposts or handlebars where they would be tidy, secure and could have a shared power supply. We don't buy cars as bare vehicles and then equip them with lights later. It's worth seriously considering if the same should be the case for bikes. I suspect many people would dislike this idea as they'd like the option of a completely stripped-back, minimalist bike but I think that misses the point.0 -
Indeed, but I know many people would prefer to purchase their own lighting as a lot of it is personal preference.
There already is standardisation of sorts in that all of my stuff takes a micro-USB charging cable, so it shouldn't be too difficult to have a usb hub inside the frame with wires that go out to each of the acessories via USB. Then just a single USB port on the bike itself which you plug in to charge.0 -
Yes, but that's a big part of the problem. Should basic lighting really be down to personal preference? If you're riding on the road, I think it should be a standard safety requirement and look similar on all bikes. In general I don't like excessive regulation but bike lights should have more in my view. Imagine if motorists could decide the minimum lighting requirements for their own cars, how bright they should be, where they should point, whether they should flash or not. It would be horrific. Bikes are less critical but I think the same logic applies, we've just gotten used to thinking otherwise. I think there's definitely an argument to suggest basic "visibility" lighting and reflectors should be standardised and integrated thus making bicycles more easily recognisable to others and avoiding the consequences of those who are incompetent to make these decisions themselves.markhewitt1978 wrote:Indeed, but I know many people would prefer to purchase their own lighting as a lot of it is personal preference.
When it comes to headlights for seeing where you're going the story is a little more complex as requirements differ based on the type, speed and location of riding you'll do. So more powerful headlights might remain optional add-ons.
The problem I see is that you'd need multiple USB cables exiting the frame and plugged into the accessories. Would the exit port always be in the correct location? What about USB not being waterproof? I think a standardised mount design for visibility front and rear lights at a minimum would be much tidier. The power connection could be integrated in the mount and dispense with bulky clamp or rubber band based mounts, unnecessary cables and extra potential points of failure. If it went this route then light manufacturers could still produce their own myriad of designs they'd just all have the same mounting platform.markhewitt1978 wrote:There already is standardisation of sorts in that all of my stuff takes a micro-USB charging cable, so it shouldn't be too difficult to have a usb hub inside the frame with wires that go out to each of the acessories via USB. Then just a single USB port on the bike itself which you plug in to charge.
However I'd prefer standardised fully integrated minimum lighting.0 -
1. Is a good idea IMOjeffersonduang wrote:As a maker & rider from Internet, we want to make bicycle more smart, so we want to increase some functions in the bicycle.
Perhaps you is in need of such a function, maybe they are not practical.
In either case, we need your suggestions to help us improve our ideas.
So please show your opinions about the following functions.
1. Radar--- when the people riding could notice(by Handlebar vibration) people the car behind the rider is coming, so make cycling more safely.
2.navigation---The electric motor is placed on both sides of the handlebar. When you riding, Handlebar can guide the direction of vibration(left or right).
3.Headlight---There will be a light in front of the handlebar, so you won't worry about night riding.
4.Anti-lost---There would have a sim card, GPS and a Buzzer in the bicycle. The bicycle can be connected to the phone. You can see where is the bicycle on the phone. When you lock the bicycle on the phone, if somebody else moves the bicycle, your phone will notice you and the same time the buzzer on the bicycle will ring!
2. Don't see the point
3. Already present in some bikes (Canyon's commuter bike for example) but to get the best out of this it needs standardisation and regulation as discussed above. Unfortunately I don't think that's on the horizon.
4. Might be worth considering.
I'm a little confused.
You seem to be suggesting here that you're a manufacturer and yet in another thread you are asking if carbon bikes last more than 3 years so you can decide whether to buy one....0 -
Ai_1 wrote:
1. Is a good idea IMOjeffersonduang wrote:As a maker & rider from Internet, we want to make bicycle more smart, so we want to increase some functions in the bicycle.
Perhaps you is in need of such a function, maybe they are not practical.
In either case, we need your suggestions to help us improve our ideas.
So please show your opinions about the following functions.
1. Radar--- when the people riding could notice(by Handlebar vibration) people the car behind the rider is coming, so make cycling more safely.
2.navigation---The electric motor is placed on both sides of the handlebar. When you riding, Handlebar can guide the direction of vibration(left or right).
3.Headlight---There will be a light in front of the handlebar, so you won't worry about night riding.
4.Anti-lost---There would have a sim card, GPS and a Buzzer in the bicycle. The bicycle can be connected to the phone. You can see where is the bicycle on the phone. When you lock the bicycle on the phone, if somebody else moves the bicycle, your phone will notice you and the same time the buzzer on the bicycle will ring!
2. Don't see the point
3. Already present in some bikes (Canyon's commuter bike for example) but to get the best out of this it needs standardisation and regulation as discussed above. Unfortunately I don't think that's on the horizon.
4. Might be worth considering.
I'm a little confused.
You seem to be suggesting here that you're a manufacturer and yet in another thread you are asking if carbon bikes last more than 3 years so you can decide whether to buy one....
Potentially he could be suggesting that him being a "maker and rider" is him buying the frames and making up the bikes then selling them on the internet instead of being a big brand manufacturer such as say... Scott and them designing the frames and selling the whole bikes in a shop.
I think his ideas are probably something he's planning to incorporate into his builds, I would think that having both the car sensor and gps direction giving signals in the form of handlebar vibration would make it difficult to distinguish between the different features.
However I do like the sound of the car sensor that vibrates the handlebar.0 -
I think having anything that notifies the rider by handlebar vibrations may be flawed by the vibrations from the road, on 90% of the roads I ride the notification vibrations would have to be pretty violent to be noticed above the road buzz!
I think 4 is potentially a good idea but battery life, where it would be placed that it couldn't easily be removed and size and weight may be limiting factors here.www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0 -
SloppySchleckonds wrote:
Indeed. Yet people STILL reply ;-)0 -
I know a few co's are having a go, but I don't think it will be long before the Big O' (kley), or someone maybe collaborates with Garmin to develop a fully functional HUD. Those Jawbreakers are certainly big enough
Oh, and I still believe electromagnetic traction wont be too far away (think monorail). Replace the rotational wheel as we know it with an rigid electromagnetic "hoop", onto which a standard tyre can be fitted onto an accompanying EM "rim", that will rotate around the circumference of the hoop.....kind of 0 -
Chris Bass wrote:I think having anything that notifies the rider by handlebar vibrations may be flawed by the vibrations from the road, on 90% of the roads I ride the notification vibrations would have to be pretty violent to be noticed above the road buzz!
I think 4 is potentially a good idea but battery life, where it would be placed that it couldn't easily be removed and size and weight may be limiting factors here.
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markhewitt1978 wrote:He's obviously researching for some college thing, but his ideas are not terrible ones.
I think the tracking idea isn't a bad one. Having some tracker chip embeded within the frame with a SIM card so that you can always call up the location of the bike, useful if it gets stolen but also useful if something happens the wife can track me down.
Another thing which I've often thought would be a good idea to build into a frame is a power distribution system, which may go hand in hand with Di2.
You often have a range of stuff which needs charging, some people have Di2 batteries (not me), but front and rear lights, cycle computer etc, you have to detach them, and open a fiddly flap to plug them into USB charge, then reattach them to the bike once they've charged up.
It would be nice to have a system where they could all stay on the bike and be permanently wired up, then when your bike is at home you have one wire which you plug into it which charges everything up.
About the charging things, we will have a system where they could all stay on the bike and be permanently wired up, but we will use batteries, people need to change batteries.0 -
Ai_1 wrote:
1. Is a good idea IMOjeffersonduang wrote:As a maker & rider from Internet, we want to make bicycle more smart, so we want to increase some functions in the bicycle.
Perhaps you is in need of such a function, maybe they are not practical.
In either case, we need your suggestions to help us improve our ideas.
So please show your opinions about the following functions.
1. Radar--- when the people riding could notice(by Handlebar vibration) people the car behind the rider is coming, so make cycling more safely.
2.navigation---The electric motor is placed on both sides of the handlebar. When you riding, Handlebar can guide the direction of vibration(left or right).
3.Headlight---There will be a light in front of the handlebar, so you won't worry about night riding.
4.Anti-lost---There would have a sim card, GPS and a Buzzer in the bicycle. The bicycle can be connected to the phone. You can see where is the bicycle on the phone. When you lock the bicycle on the phone, if somebody else moves the bicycle, your phone will notice you and the same time the buzzer on the bicycle will ring!
2. Don't see the point
3. Already present in some bikes (Canyon's commuter bike for example) but to get the best out of this it needs standardisation and regulation as discussed above. Unfortunately I don't think that's on the horizon.
4. Might be worth considering.
I'm a little confused.
You seem to be suggesting here that you're a manufacturer and yet in another thread you are asking if carbon bikes last more than 3 years so you can decide whether to buy one....
I like riding, but don't have a carbon bicycle, yet. I believe a carbon bicycle could ride for 10 years, maybe more. But a guy in our team doesn't think so, so I will prove to him. The best way I thought is let cyclist tells him the truth.0 -
Depends on the initial quality of the carbon fibre construction... One of my riding buddies has a pair of CF forks that are at least 17 years old (he bought the bike secondhand 17 years ago) and they are still intact and sound.0
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for someone who seems to want to develop a fairly advanced bike you seem to have a very poor understanding of the basics.
I wouldn't be concentrating on integrated charging and gps tracking when you don't even know the first things about the materials you will use.
Don't try and run before you can walk!www.conjunctivitis.com - a site for sore eyes0
