After market ceramic wheel bearings

Fishboyz

Interested in looking at these as had them in my old zipp 404's

Anyone know best place to source, brands to look for etc?

sungod

bearing (heh heh, soz) in mind that they'll make marginal difference at best

poor ceramics will be worse than good steel ones, avoid ones of unknown quality/tolerance, poor tolerance parts can damage things

ceramicspeed are high quality, but also high price...

http://ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/WheelKits

ilm_zero7

the Hub Doctor - i think they are US based but you give them your wheel spec and they send the bearing to suit including ceramics, at a great price

I think they are on Ebay, or try
HubDoctor LLC
jbosboom@dslextreme.com

Bar Shaker

sungod wrote:

ceramicspeed are high quality, but also high price...

http://ceramicspeed.com/sport/products/WheelKits

That link is the funniest thing I have seen this year :-)

drlodge

www.airebearings.co.uk

sungod

Bar Shaker wrote:

That link is the funniest thing I have seen this year :-)

i had to look twice, i thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks

cycleclinic

how much!

Monty Dog

Unless you're pedalling at 10,000rpm, ceramics are a waste of money as there's no evidence they'll deliver any benefit, apart from emptying your wallet.

stueys

sungod wrote:

Bar Shaker wrote:

That link is the funniest thing I have seen this year :-)

i had to look twice, i thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks

Surely people don't actually pay that?? :shock: Nuts....

ugo.santalucia

Stueys wrote:

sungod wrote:

Bar Shaker wrote:

That link is the funniest thing I have seen this year :-)

i had to look twice, i thought maybe my eyes were playing tricks

Surely people don't actually pay that?? :shock: Nuts....

Yeah, prices of goods can easily spiral out of control.

Let's assume they are high end full zirconia balls and races that the factory sell for 30 pounds to the wholesaler based in Whateveristan... who then pass them on to a distributor for 60 pounds + VAT (72 pounds)... who then sell them to the retailer for 144 + VAT (173 pounds), who then sell them online for 288 + VAT, hence 345 pounds and a few pennies...

In the process, there is enough VAT to build roads and hospitals or pay FIFA officials to cast a vote for a World Cup in the desert... so it's all good, really...

86inch

Although i agree VAT can be excessive, your given impression of VAT seems slightly incorrect. VAT is only paid once on goods. If you are reseller and are charged VAT you will reclaim it on your purchase and charge again when its moved on. In this way the only VAT that goes to the exchequer is for the last transaction to the end user or non-VAT registered business, who cannot charge VAT.

Your example suggests the total VAT colleciton is £98, whereas it would in fact "only" be £58 (rounding up).

And no, i'm not a VAT inspector ;-)

ugo.santalucia

86inch wrote:

Although i agree VAT can be excessive, your given impression of VAT seems slightly incorrect. VAT is only paid once on goods. If you are reseller and are charged VAT you will reclaim it on your purchase and charge again when its moved on. In this way the only VAT that goes to the exchequer is for the last transaction to the end user or non-VAT registered business, who cannot charge VAT.

Your example suggests the total VAT colleciton is £98, whereas it would in fact "only" be £58 (rounding up).

And no, i'm not a VAT inspector ;-)

My point is that every step of the way (n) the goods value (V) is multiplied by 2.4
If it is only 2.4 x [n(2 x V)] is a bit less but still a lot

stueys

I think it's more a reflection of pricing based on propensity to spend, which sadly it seems as if cycling has picked up a tag for. Ceramic bearings as used in plenty of industrial applications which go nowhere near this kind of insane pricing.