New Wheel Advice for a Fatty
OwenB
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Hi guys I'm looking for some replacement wheels for my Giant Defy as my stock wheels are beginning to show their age.
I don't have a massive budget somewhere in the region of £250, most of my miles are done commuting 10 miles each way to work and back, however I often get out on rides up to 60 miles at the weekend and live on the cusp of the lake district so it's hilly and the road surfaces are generally terrible. My main issue with wheels is that I'm a big lad at 19 stone , can anyone help in making a recommendation as to what wheels may be suitable for my needs?
I don't have a massive budget somewhere in the region of £250, most of my miles are done commuting 10 miles each way to work and back, however I often get out on rides up to 60 miles at the weekend and live on the cusp of the lake district so it's hilly and the road surfaces are generally terrible. My main issue with wheels is that I'm a big lad at 19 stone , can anyone help in making a recommendation as to what wheels may be suitable for my needs?
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Handbuilts 36 spoke rear and 32 front - cycle clinic, ugo (if your local to him) Harry Rowland
With Miche or 105 hubs and something like Ryde/Rigida Chrina type rims you should be able to get in on budget. I used to be heavier than you and am now 17st 10 so I know from bitter experience it's just not worth wasting money and time on anything else.0 -
Cheers guys. I'll pop into my lbs and see if they can make something with those specs for my budget. Those from moonglu certainly look the part.
I know I need the extra spokes and tough rims,but I'd still like them to not look like tractor wheels0 -
Good advice above, something like open pro's with 36 spokes per wheel is best due to the rough roads and weight / strength you will have.0
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I would suggest dt swiss tk540 touring rims on miche or shimano hubs with sapim race and sapim strong spokes. The chrina rim is quite flexible and while it will support a 19 st rider its narrower profile will give the op a punishing ride as he cant drop tyre pressures much. A wider rim helps with wheel stiffness and ride comfort. It will also be latterally stiffer if get out of the saddle alot. The archetype rim will also do the job. You may spend a shade more than 250 quid but it will be worth it. It not like the chrina rim is any lighter either. It cheap and it got a thick brake track, thats is all that is going for it.
The open pro rim is narrow and again will give a smaller tyre volume for a given tyre than the two rims i have mentioned above. The open pro was a bench mark rim along time ago. It a bit like saying the e34 bmw 5 series ( that's my old beater) was a bench mark car, well it was but that was 25 years ago. Things have moved on.http://www.thecycleclinic.co.uk -wheel building and other stuff.0 -
thecycleclinic wrote:I would suggest dt swiss tk540 touring rims on miche or shimano hubs with sapim race and sapim strong spokes. The chrina rim is quite flexible and while it will support a 19 st rider its narrower profile will give the op a punishing ride as he cant drop tyre pressures much. A wider rim helps with wheel stiffness and ride comfort. It will also be latterally stiffer if get out of the saddle alot. The archetype rim will also do the job. You may spend a shade more than 250 quid but it will be worth it. It not like the chrina rim is any lighter either. It cheap and it got a thick brake track, thats is all that is going for it.
The open pro rim is narrow and again will give a smaller tyre volume for a given tyre than the two rims i have mentioned above. The open pro was a bench mark rim along time ago. It a bit like saying the e34 bmw 5 series ( that's my old beater) was a bench mark car, well it was but that was 25 years ago. Things have moved on.
I've been looking at hubs primarily the miche ones. Can you recommend a hub and spoke count? I was thinking 32 front and rear.
My lbs has said that they can give me a quote for my own requirements or one based on their suggestion0 -
At 19stone 36 rear every time.0
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wishitwasallflat wrote:At 19stone 36 rear every time.
It may be a daft question on my part but can the huns be bought individually? Or would it have to be in a pair?0 -
OwenB wrote:wishitwasallflat wrote:At 19stone 36 rear every time.
It may be a daft question on my part but can the huns be bought individually? Or would it have to be in a pair?
Not sure I've only ever bought wheels, my latest set were from cycleclinic and Malcolm certainly sells 36R 32F which is what I got (Miche hubs archetype rims). My previous sets were from Harry Rowland (open pro rims with 105 hubs and another with Miche) and I had to buy 36F & R. Makes no diff to someone like me but it feels less depressing to have 32F!0 -
Kajjal wrote:Good advice above, something like open pro's with 36 spokes per wheel is best due to the rough roads and weight / strength you will have.
Open Pro's aren't the rim of choice any more. H+ Son or Pacenti are better..0 -
Well my LBS can't get Archetypes or Miche hubs via his distributes so I'd have to buy the parts and take them in to be built. When SWMBO releases the funds I'll have to look at the cycle clinic website.0
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OwenB wrote:Well my LBS can't get Archetypes or Miche hubs via his distributes so I'd have to buy the parts and take them in to be built. When SWMBO releases the funds I'll have to look at the cycle clinic website.
Archetype are distributed by BLB Bigmama, very easy to get an account with them. If you have a VAT number you can probably get an account yourself.
Miche are distributed by Chicken cycles... what kind of a shop doesn't have an account with them? :shock:left the forum March 20230 -
ugo.santalucia wrote:OwenB wrote:Well my LBS can't get Archetypes or Miche hubs via his distributes so I'd have to buy the parts and take them in to be built. When SWMBO releases the funds I'll have to look at the cycle clinic website.
Archetype are distributed by BLB Bigmama, very easy to get an account with them. If you have a VAT number you can probably get an account yourself.
Miche are distributed by Chicken cycles... what kind of a shop doesn't have an account with them? :shock:
In honesty Ugo, they're a pretty good shop but I got the feeling that they weren't keen on doing custom wheels,they kept trying to sell me factory wheels. I've got another shop locally who may be able to help out but they tend to be a bit pricier but I know they're good with wheels and are happy to do builds0 -
Shimano Ultegra hubs, come in 32/36 and are great VFM. They seem to run well for many seasons and are easy to service. £100 for a pair at virtually every bike shop in the country.
I can see the budget creeping up to £300 by the time you factor in £100 for the rims and then £100 for the build inc. spokes and rim tape but the money will be well spent.0 -
Bobbinogs wrote:Shimano Ultegra hubs, come in 32/36 and are great VFM. They seem to run well for many seasons and are easy to service. £100 for a pair at virtually every bike shop in the country.
I can see the budget creeping up to £300 by the time you factor in £100 for the rims and then £100 for the build inc. spokes and rim tape but the money will be well spent.
Yep I imagine that you're right re the budget. Just need the time to get to the shop and get a price0 -
OwenB wrote:Bobbinogs wrote:Shimano Ultegra hubs, come in 32/36 and are great VFM. They seem to run well for many seasons and are easy to service. £100 for a pair at virtually every bike shop in the country.
I can see the budget creeping up to £300 by the time you factor in £100 for the rims and then £100 for the build inc. spokes and rim tape but the money will be well spent.
Yep I imagine that you're right re the budget. Just need the time to get to the shop and get a price
If you can reach £300 mark then loads of options open up for you - personally while there is a lot to be said for supporting lbss wheelbuilding is a specialist art and I have always bought online on reputation and recommendation so two pairs from Harry Rowland and now one from cycleclinic. The only place round here I've heard folks talk about is Black Hawk cycles in Stockton but I've never tried them myself cause the only recommendation I got was from someone whose friends with him (am I suspicious and paranoid ... yes!).
If you have an lbs though which has a good rep and reliable recommendations for wheelbuilding though no reason not to.0 -
Hi guys, due to a number of reasons I didn't get any wheels as I was off the bike for a fair while. I still need some and unfortunately budget isn't the best at the moment. I've seen some wheels that may suit and would like to know if they're suitable.
The rims are Pacenti SL23, miche Primato hubs, 32 double butted spokes laced in a 3x pattern. They're on sale at £199 which is manageable with some tyres to add into the budget equation.
is this a good buy? Will they cope with my weight as I'm still over 19s? Should I look elsewhere? My existing wheels are about shot so I have to replace them with something soon.0 -
Hi guys, due to a number of reasons I didn't get any wheels as I was off the bike for a fair while. I still need some and unfortunately budget isn't the best at the moment. I've seen some wheels that may suit and would like to know if they're suitable.
The rims are Pacenti SL23, miche Primato hubs, 32 double butted spokes laced in a 3x pattern. They're on sale at £199 which is manageable with some tyres to add into the budget equation.
is this a good buy? Will they cope with my weight as I'm still over 19s? Should I look elsewhere? My existing wheels are about shot so I have to replace them with something soon.
Reckon they would be pretty good. And try and look at getting that weight down.Insta: ATEnduranceCoaching
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Hi guys, due to a number of reasons I didn't get any wheels as I was off the bike for a fair while. I still need some and unfortunately budget isn't the best at the moment. I've seen some wheels that may suit and would like to know if they're suitable.
The rims are Pacenti SL23, miche Primato hubs, 32 double butted spokes laced in a 3x pattern. They're on sale at £199 which is manageable with some tyres to add into the budget equation.
is this a good buy? Will they cope with my weight as I'm still over 19s? Should I look elsewhere? My existing wheels are about shot so I have to replace them with something soon.
Reckon they would be pretty good. And try and look at getting that weight down.
The intention is there. Just need to be healthy enough to ride. First ride out last weekend and hopefully plenty more to come should help.0 -
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