How long a carbon road bike could use?

jeffersonduang

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Recently a friend of mine told me the carbon bike only can be used about 3 years. After 3 years ,the frame will be broken.

I haven't bought a carbon bike, yet.

I want to know how long a carbon road bike can be ride?

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about and is feeding you nonsense.
I'm pretty sure several road bike manufacturers give lifetime warranties on their carbon frames.

Lifetime warranties!? That's amazing. The bicycle have lifetime warranties must be so expensive, I thought.

Why?

In my country, you would never found a manufacturers could gives a lifetime warranties.

ai_1

jeffersonduang wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Recently a friend of mine told me the carbon bike only can be used about 3 years. After 3 years ,the frame will be broken.

I haven't bought a carbon bike, yet.

I want to know how long a carbon road bike can be ride?

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about and is feeding you nonsense.
I'm pretty sure several road bike manufacturers give lifetime warranties on their carbon frames.

Lifetime warranties!? That's amazing. The bicycle have lifetime warranties must be so expensive, I thought.

Why?

In my country, you would never found a manufacturers could gives a lifetime warranties.

That doesn't answer the question of why it would be so expensive to provide a lifetime warranty.
It's still only one bike frame that's warrantied. If there is no problematic gradual degradation over time expected then there's no cost expected from providing such a guarantee. Any manufacturing defects not associated with long term degradation will likely turn up soon after purchase, not after 10 years so I don't see why a longer warranty would be costly unless there were a longevity problem with carbon which there is not.

pinno

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

jeffersonduang wrote:

Recently a friend of mine told me the carbon bike only can be used about 3 years. After 3 years ,the frame will be broken.

I haven't bought a carbon bike, yet.

I want to know how long a carbon road bike can be ride?

Your friend doesn't know what he's talking about and is feeding you nonsense.
I'm pretty sure several road bike manufacturers give lifetime warranties on their carbon frames.

Lifetime warranties!? That's amazing. The bicycle have lifetime warranties must be so expensive, I thought.

Why?

In my...costly unless there were a longevity problem with carbon which there is not.

There is. It dissolves in the rain and it only lasts a couple of weeks.

wishitwasallflat

My hamster rode my carbon bike in the rain and now it's telling racist jokes and doing dodgy hitler impersonations and ranting about someone called Maggie he would give one to! I decided to gave it aluminium hydroxide tablets and hit it with a titanium bar and then fried and ate it so alls well now (except that it raining) so I can't wear my new sugar based bib shorts (www.sweetnuts.com)

Matthewfalle

pinarello001 wrote:

The main problem with carbon is the effect of cycling at 25mph +. At an institute in Switzerland, studies have shown that really fit riders exceeding 25mph regularly wore out their carbon frames in less than 36 years, whereas the control group riding Aluminium didn't have this problem.
The result of the trials lead researchers to the discovery that at a pace, carbon changes at a molecular level and gradually gets softer. The heat build up due to the high levels of friction and no ready supply of a thin oil to temper the cooling carbon after riding fast, causes the material to be soft. In the wet, the carbon cools too quickly and becomes brittle, rendering it useless after just 29 years.

The full details of the study is here:

https://.www.bernyplasticsresearch.org.sw

Exactly - the continual build up of heat caused by riding the bike followed by people not following the correct protocols and allowing the materials to cool down properly leads to imperfections in the weave - the fact that during construction of 99% of carbon bikes the procedures aren't exactly monitored too closely (seen by the widespread cracking, splintering and failure of many bikes as can be evidenced by even a quick search on here) coupled with poor bonding/understanding of techniques when carbon tubes are used with other materials (eg metal drop outs) leads to imperfections that allow the widely documented and acknowledged problems caused by moisture ingress and following egress through a different part of the frame.

Carbon bike if you're a pro riding in the summer or can just get a new one whenever you want? Yup, please. But an amateur riding one all year round in all weather conditions and not expecting a frame/component failure (and then having mock anger when it does happen) - I'll leave that one up to you......

pinno

This all started in 1952 when a young Ernesto Colnago started building his own frames. Just 10 years later, Colnago couldn't sell many frames so he turned to the KGB for funding. Khrushchev himself orchestrated the idea of a mass suicide of Western dogs by bicycle, when his little disagreement with Kennedy went the wrong way.
If he could get as many people riding as many faulty bikes as possible, he could skew the population imbalance in his tactical favour. The plan was a long drawn out one: build stunning chrome plated machines beautifully painted that would draw as many people into cycling as possible. It didn't quite work at first. In fact, it took the best part of 50 years.
Be warned. Although Nikita Khrushchev is long dead, his master plan is in full flow even to the extent that other manufacturers are building these carbon suicide 'rigs', inadvertently assisting to the dark plan, hatched in the Kremlin back in '62.
Sometime in the 70's, a KGB bloke named Peter Wright decided to due a stage of the Tour de France in 1974. They called this event Le Marmotte. It was a brainwave. A master stroke: get the masses cycling all over the Western world in huge numbers. They called the event a 'Sportive'. More names appeared and more events were created: Audax's. 'Randonees'. The problem was that Colnago's bikes just were not faulty enough and any faults were soon rectified and the components became more reliable as Campagnolo was not in the control of Khrushchev.
The plan went awry and was quickly backfiring until... The Politburo came up with a staggering and insidious idea. One that would go under the noses of everyone - make the frames unreliable death traps: Build them out of Carbon Fibre.
Soon there will be millions on bikes just as a big thunderstorm is about to hit when the plethora of sportives is in simultaneous full flow, all 70m entrants, riding carbon machines, all ready to perish somewhere down Holm Moss, L'Alpe D'Huez or the Mortirolo as their bikes dissolve in the downpour. Doctors and Dentists on Treks, budding Scientists and Physicists on Ribble's, marketing Guru's on Lapierre's and the puritanical element riding Italian carbon exotica.
Just imagine the collapse of Western Society as the thunderstorm strikes... So many people fooled in a 60 year plan which is just about to spell the death-knell of the free world.

Matthewfalle

pinarello001 wrote:

This all started in 1952 when a young Ernesto Colnago started building his own frames. Just 10 years later, Colnago couldn't sell many frames so he turned to the KGB for funding. Khrushchev himself orchestrated the idea of a mass suicide of Western dogs by bicycle, when his little disagreement with Kennedy went the wrong way.
If he could get as many people riding as many faulty bikes as possible, he could skew the population imbalance in his tactical favour. The plan was a long drawn out one: build stunning chrome plated machines beautifully painted that would draw as many people into cycling as possible. It didn't quite work at first. In fact, it took the best part of 50 years.
Be warned. Although Nikita Khrushchev is long dead, his master plan is in full flow even to the extent that other manufacturers are building these carbon suicide 'rigs', inadvertently assisting to the dark plan, hatched in the Kremlin back in '62.
Sometime in the 70's, a KGB bloke named Peter Wright decided to due a stage of the Tour de France in 1974. They called this event Le Marmotte. It was a brainwave. A master stroke: get the masses cycling all over the Western world in huge numbers. They called the event a 'Sportive'. More names appeared and more events were created: Audax's. 'Randonees'. The problem was that Colnago's bikes just were not faulty enough and any faults were soon rectified and the components became more reliable as Campagnolo was not in the control of Khrushchev.
The plan went awry and was quickly backfiring until... The Politburo came up with a staggering and insidious idea. One that would go under the noses of everyone - make the frames unreliable death traps: Build them out of Carbon Fibre.
Soon there will be millions on bikes just as a big thunderstorm is about to hit when the plethora of sportives is in simultaneous full flow, all 70m entrants, riding carbon machines, all ready to perish somewhere down Holm Moss, L'Alpe D'Huez or the Mortirolo as their bikes dissolve in the downpour. Doctors and Dentists on Treks, budding Scientists and Physicists on Ribble's, marketing Guru's on Lapierre's and the puritanical element riding Italian carbon exotica.
Just imagine the collapse of Western Society as the thunderstorm strikes... So many people fooled in a 60 year plan which is just about to spell the death-knell of the free world.

Or, essentially, don't ride a carbon bike in the rain and expect to live because you won't. You will die. TDV has watched more episodes of ER than all of you lot put together and I know a dead person when I see one and they are generally next to a damp carbon bicycle. Even in war zones there is always, bizarrely enough, a sodden carbon bicycle next to a corpse.

To paraphrase Zammo: carbon. Just say no. Carbon is, essentially, gonna kill you.

mfin

I reckon someone might be able to craft a funny post on this thread.

Matthewfalle

mfin wrote:

I reckon someone might be able to craft a funny post on this thread.

No jokes round here mate - this is serious stuff.

pinno

mfin wrote:

I reckon someone might be able to craft a funny post on this thread.

Over to you for a bash at one then...

Matthewfalle

Unless he's too busy bashing something else out ...................

ben@31

Well known scientific fact that after 2 years and 364 days, at the stroke of midnight carbon instantly reverts to what is known as pumpkin.

The question on everyones lips... Is this pumpkin lighter than carbon?

This is all of whats left of my 2012 Specialized Tarmac...

pinno

ben@31 wrote:

Well known scientific fact that after 2 years and 364 days, at the stroke of midnight carbon instantly reverts to what is known as pumpkin.

The question on everyones lips... Is this pumpkin lighter than carbon?

This is all of whats left of my 2012 Specialized Tarmac...

This is the beginning of the end. Worst of all, I bet your warranty expired at that precise moment. It's not a coincidence.

wishitwasallflat

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well known scientific fact that after 2 years and 364 days, at the stroke of midnight carbon instantly reverts to what is known as pumpkin.

The question on everyones lips... Is this pumpkin lighter than carbon?

This is all of whats left of my 2012 Specialized Tarmac...

This is the beginning of the end. Worst of all, I bet your warranty expired at that precise moment. It's not a coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

pinno

wishitwasallflat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well'...coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

Must be sign of the times when Cinderella edge's towards the 100 kg mark. :roll:

Matthewfalle

pinarello001 wrote:

wishitwasallflat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well'...coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

Must be sign of the times when Cinderella edge's towards the 100 kg mark. :roll:

TDV and TDLO are no where near the 100kg weight limit which proves the fact that fatties don't rock in the MF household.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

ai_1

Matthewfalle wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

wishitwasallflat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well'...coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

Must be sign of the times when Cinderella edge's towards the 100 kg mark. :roll:

TDV and TDLO are no where near the 100kg weight limit which proves the fact that fatties don't rock in the MF household.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

TDV?
TDLO?

Matthewfalle

Ai_1 wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

wishitwasallflat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well'...coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

Must be sign of the times when Cinderella edge's towards the 100 kg mark. :roll:

TDV and TDLO are no where near the 100kg weight limit which proves the fact that fatties don't rock in the MF household.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

TDV?
TDLO?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

ai_1

Matthewfalle wrote:

Ai_1 wrote:

Matthewfalle wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

wishitwasallflat wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

ben@31 wrote:

Well'...coincidence.

Specialised give a lifetime warranty on pumpkins up to a mistreated sister weight limit of 100kg.

Must be sign of the times when Cinderella edge's towards the 100 kg mark. :roll:

TDV and TDLO are no where near the 100kg weight limit which proves the fact that fatties don't rock in the MF household.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

TDV?
TDLO?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm TDLO.

MOTHO

Matthewfalle

Monna motho nkote ha monate? Really? I don't think it'll work myself.

Very impressed that you speak Sesotho though - mine is really patchy (worked there for a while but years ago and if you don't use it you lose it and all that). Made my day to find a fellow speaker though!

bompington

Well, dumela indeed! Le phela joang?
Sala hantle.

Matthewfalle

bompington wrote:

Well, dumela indeed! Le phela joang?
Sala hantle.

<Right, deep breath - please excuse my grammar - as I said, its been ages>

E 'ngoe - khabane ka ho fetisisa sepakbola. O ile a u ithutang sona Sotho?

bompington

Sadly I didn't learn much - just been there for a couple of visits. Lovely country, lovely people, although I'm getting a bit tired of supporting the informal law-enforcement economy.

Is this a record for the furthest off-topic ever?

veronese68

bompington wrote:

Is this a record for the furthest off-topic ever?

I'm impressed. Actually, should I now disapprove? The responsibility is too much for me.

Matthewfalle

I was only there when I was, errrr, consulting for some people. Yes consulting that's a very good word for it.

Naha ea heno ke motle haholo - ha e pula haholo?

pinno

Sod your Sesotho. Kumbafu wewe, kwenda.

@ Ai_1 The Delicious... then add initials of boy/girl/tranny/cadet/cadette of your choice.

bompington

Matthewfalle wrote:

I was only there when I was, errrr, consulting for some people. Yes consulting that's a very good word for it.

Naha ea heno ke motle haholo - ha e pula haholo?

Haholoholo.

But maybe not so much khotso or nala.

ai_1

pinarello001 wrote:

Sod your Sesotho. Kumbafu wewe, kwenda.

@ Ai_1 The Delicious... then add initials of boy/girl/tranny/cadet/cadette of your choice.

Thank you sir, new one on me.
Glad I didn't waste any time trying to figure that one out.

veronese68

pinarello001 wrote:

@ Ai_1 The Delicious... then add initials of boy/girl/tranny/cadet/cadette of your choice.

I always thought The Delightful...

pinno

Veronese68 wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

@ Ai_1 The Delicious... then add initials of boy/girl/tranny/cadet/cadette of your choice.

I always thought The Delightful...

There's a few adjectives beginning with D. No one has actually seen them so add your own.

'Delightful' sounds a bit posh, a bit RAF type to me and he's not Captain flash heart.

Are you on the graveyard shift? Keep an eye on that furry basket Bally. He tends to crawl out of his den at this time of night.