Which to keep

Iain 1959

Hi just joined.

Have had bikes on off since I was a kid (now just a big kid) 56 I have an Apollo Phaze bought new 7 years ago not used it much,then recently I have been given a Trek 800 gave it a check over then did a ten mile ride and found it a very easy ride. I changed the bars on the Apollo for wider ones, I have wider bars on my motorcycle as well looked at doing this on the Trek but the stem is not the split type. Any views on this. Regards Iain

cooldad

Not sure what a split type is? but you can get wide bars in all flavours.

Iain 1959

Split stem is where the top of the stem has 2 screws that let you change the handle bars the Trek has a loop with 1 bolt, so only straight bars can be fed through and it is a bigger diameter than my Sunline bars.Iian

rockmonkeysc

Sell both and get a mountain bike.

cooldad

You can fit riser bars with a single bolt stem, just wriggle them through. Size will be 31.8
You can get long flat bars.
As a start. Wide and cheap
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/bran ... prod118782

The Rookie

Most stems without a faceplate are 25.4, not 31.8, the older bike may have 22.2mm bars (so 25.4 is bigger). Would suggest he measures first!

Neither is really a 'mountain' bike though!

cooldad

Fair point. Plenty of long 25.4 bars as well.

cooldad

ps the Trek looks like a mountain bike to me. But obviously I am from a different era of manly gas pipe bikes.

Iain 1959

The Rookie wrote:

Most stems without a faceplate are 25.4, not 31.8, the older bike may have 22.2mm bars (so 25.4 is bigger). Would suggest he measures first!

Neither is really a 'mountain' bike though!

Thanks for all replies.If not mountain bikes what are they, Urban?

Iain 1959

OK I have found my own answer on Wikapedia I hope this will help others of my age.

Mountain bikes can be classified into four categories based on suspension:

Rigid: A frame with a rigid fork and fixed rear, no suspension.
Hard tail: A frame with a front suspension fork and no rear suspension.
Soft tail: A frame with small amount of rear suspension, activated by flex of the frame instead of pivots.
Dual or full suspension: A front suspension fork and rear suspension with a rear shock and linkage that allow the rear wheel to move on pivots.

Chunkers1980

Yeah - that's a rigid mountain bike.

Iain 1959

And makes the apollo a hardtail so both are mountain bikes

Chunkers1980

No the Apollo, is a fully rigid due to it being POS BSO

cooldad

Yep but to the kiddies on here before they can ride over a blade of grass they need at least a foot of suspension both ends, a dropper post, massive gnarly tyres, eight foot wide bars, a 1mm stem and somewhere to plug the GPS and Playstation into.

Now when I was a lad....

Antm81

cooldad wrote:

Now when I was a lad....

....everybody believed the earth was flat

Iain 1959

Apollo Phaze is a hard tail

Hard tail: A frame with a front suspension fork and no rear suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNYOqKwTG8M

cooldad

Iain 1959 wrote:

Apollo Phaze is a hard tail

Hard tail: A frame with a front suspension fork and no rear suspension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNYOqKwTG8M

He's being less than complimentary. Possibly referring to the forks being a bit useless.

Chunkers1980 wrote:

No the Apollo, is a fully rigid due to it being POS BSO

Translation:

Piece of sh1t bike shaped object.

Chunkers1980

Spot on CD.

Lungs94

I dont think the bloke understand what a BSO is or what a POS they are