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First MTB? how much to spend?

Lungs94Lungs94 Posts: 160
edited May 2015 in MTB buying advice
My brother & a mate are looking for their first XC mountain bike, how much should they spend? I told them £300-£500, but they seem to think the Argos BSO's are good enough, how can I get them to understand that in order to get a usable machine they would have to spend atleast £300, I let them use my SS Hoodoo & Whyte 801 & my XTR Bizango. But they still don't want to pay £400 "when I can get a £120 bike from argos" should I let them get a cheap BSO & watch them suffer or try to get them to understand?
Bikes:
2013 Mondraker Dune XR - XX1 XO1 Hope, Easton Carbon, Fox
Voodoo Bizango XT - Hope, Pikes, Mavic

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  • RockmonkeySCRockmonkeySC Posts: 14,770
    Let them waste their money and then laugh and say "I told you c**** not to be so cheap"
  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 10,441
    Been here with my daughter, she got a shimano equipped BSO from somewhere that cost £100 or so. The freewheel stuck making it into a fixie throwing her off causing gravel rash and twisted ankle. When asked to repair it I said ok, picked it up and nearly broke my back it weighed nearly 22kg. Decided to scrap it and got her a GT bike instead. As cooldad and rockmonkey say warn them and let them suffer if they ignore you. Good luck.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • Rookie1986Rookie1986 Posts: 153
    Letting them buy cheap might make them not get the most out of it and then they might not stick with the hobby, I'd steer them towards something better. Would also mean they are less likely to want to upgrade again in the next 12 months so spending a little more on the initial bike is logic imo
  • RockmonkeySCRockmonkeySC Posts: 14,770
    They aren't all bad though. I spent £150 on an Apollo CX10s several years ago. I worked out that it took 12,000 miles with absolutely no maintenance before the rear hub collapsed. I then sold it for £20 and decided it had more than paid it's way.
  • kajjalkajjal Posts: 3,380
    Started on a cheap bike. After going off road it was quickly wrecked. It rode really badly and virtually had no brakes.

    Then bought a low end proper mountain bike which was much better and lasted for years until i got a decent bike.
  • Lungs94Lungs94 Posts: 160
    Rookie1986 wrote:
    Letting them buy cheap might make them not get the most out of it and then they might not stick with the hobby, I'd steer them towards something better. Would also mean they are less likely to want to upgrade again in the next 12 months so spending a little more on the initial bike is logic imo
    This is the problem, if they buy a cheap bike they wont have the joy that a £500 bike delivers they'll be lugging around a 20kg bike, my concern is that they'll get fed up & give up & when I mention that they should upgrade they'll be like "nah this is censored " because they didn't enjoy it so they seem to think that it's always to be "censored ", perhaps I should let them use my bikes, thing is they have no respect over my bikes "you can just buy another you have the money"
    Bikes:
    2013 Mondraker Dune XR - XX1 XO1 Hope, Easton Carbon, Fox
    Voodoo Bizango XT - Hope, Pikes, Mavic
  • cooldadcooldad Posts: 32,599
    It's just riding a bicycle, they either enjoy it or not. You gave them your opinion, no need to go all Jehovas Witness with them.
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  • oxomanoxoman Posts: 10,441
    Lent my spare bike out and got it back with a flat and several scratches, borrowed my brothers and cost me a new chain when it snapped. Suggest you push them to get a semi reasonable bike, look at Decathlon rockriders saves a lot of hassle. Don't volunteer to repair their bikes when they get broken, can turn in to endless nightmare.
    Too many bikes according to Mrs O.
  • Antm81Antm81 Posts: 1,406
    What about suggesting a decent used bike? My second bike is a Voodoo Hoodoo, got it hardly used for under £200
  • Lungs94Lungs94 Posts: 160
    Well my brother had a go on my Bizango & he loved it then he went on my commuter (BSO) & a few BSO articles later he's now ordered the Canyon AL 5.9, however I still cannot convince my mate to even order the Bantu or RR, I guess he's not into the sport as much. He's the type that he wants to be good just like that he doesn't like the training & practicing concept, sort of like "if I buy a £1000 bike I should be really good"
    Bikes:
    2013 Mondraker Dune XR - XX1 XO1 Hope, Easton Carbon, Fox
    Voodoo Bizango XT - Hope, Pikes, Mavic
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