Bont Vaypour

litespeed
litespeed Posts: 48
edited May 2015 in Road buying advice
Anyone using Bont Vaypour shoes who could give me an unbiased opinion on them?

Regards

Nick

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  • Fishboyz
    Fishboyz Posts: 152
    lots of info on various threads...super super stiff...insoles shocking so look for good footbeds as of spez blue ones...Use the online size guide as they come up small. I found they took a bit of getting used to as they are pretty full on carbon socks, don't expect squishy slippers feel!
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    Very, very, very stiff.

    Very comfy.

    All the stuff about the insoles should be taken with a pinch of salt until you have ridden good distances with them. I always used black Superfeet in Sidis, and expected to do the same in Bonts, but having ridden up to 400km events in them, have yet to have any issues. I was surprised, but if you look and feel the shape of the actual shoe insides, you can see why they may not need the support of other shoes (which are flat inside). I have a high arch and have struggled in sidi over the years, so have been very pleased with the shoes so far. Have a 600km next weekend to really find out if these are going to work for me before the long stuff in summer.

    Spend time on the moulding, and it may take two goes - I need to do mine again and push out one little spot.

    Did I mention they are stiff?
  • brettjmcc
    brettjmcc Posts: 1,361
    marcusjb wrote:
    All the stuff about the insoles should be taken with a pinch of salt until you have ridden good distances with them.

    Disagree, and now from the words of the CEO in a review that Cycling Tips have done on the new VayporS

    "Bont stiffens the midfoot of its shoes to provide longitudinal support, but the amount of direct arch support is purposefully neutral. “I’m a big believer that people should actually get proper inner soles,” says Nemeth, “and by that I mean they need to have a look at if they have a high arch or low arch and buy an inner sole to suit.”"


    Review is here and a good write up on it: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/05/bont- ... oe-review/

    Personally, I have used specialised on mine. On my 3rd pair after going through some trials sizing wise. Though I am now after some new ones :)
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  • nferrar
    nferrar Posts: 2,511
    What struck me with them (both the Vapour S and Riot I tired) was how stiff the uppers are. I'm usually a 45 in cycling shoes (44 in trainers) but I could barely get my foot into a 45 Vapour S as the uppers are so stiff (would likely need a shoe horn for regular use...) but I've not seen that mentioned in reviews? The 45 was also very tight once I'd got it on, does heat-moulding help the uppers loosen up much?
  • marcusjb
    marcusjb Posts: 2,412
    brettjmcc wrote:
    marcusjb wrote:
    All the stuff about the insoles should be taken with a pinch of salt until you have ridden good distances with them.

    Disagree, and now from the words of the CEO in a review that Cycling Tips have done on the new VayporS

    "Bont stiffens the midfoot of its shoes to provide longitudinal support, but the amount of direct arch support is purposefully neutral. “I’m a big believer that people should actually get proper inner soles,” says Nemeth, “and by that I mean they need to have a look at if they have a high arch or low arch and buy an inner sole to suit.”"


    Review is here and a good write up on it: http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/05/bont- ... oe-review/

    Personally, I have used specialised on mine. On my 3rd pair after going through some trials sizing wise. Though I am now after some new ones :)

    As I said, I've always used Superfeet in Sidis and expected to in these having quite a high arch.

    Pleasant surprise not to need them so far though, admittedly, I've only ridden 400km events in them so far, so can't 100% say I am super-comfy in them until the longer stuff in summer, but so far so good.

    The sizing guide on their website is excellent and despite coming out with a result slightly larger than I expected, they were spot on.
  • rokt
    rokt Posts: 493
    I asked the same question not too long ago ! I purchased a pair of black Vapor + a couple of weeks ago.
    I've only used them on three rides so far but I do like them very much but hell they are very stiff !
  • styxd
    styxd Posts: 3,234
    I think the quality of them is a bit hit and miss/poor.

    The sizing is also strange, they come up very short. I'm usually a 46 in a Sidi, I could barely get my foot in a 46 Bont.

    Any specific reason why you're considering Bonts over every other shoe brand?
  • white91
    white91 Posts: 431
    Really light and really stiff. They fit really nice.

    I have a pair of size 43 for sale too
  • jswba
    jswba Posts: 491
    That Cycling Tips review points out why Bonts seem to size upwards, so it's no surprise that a few people struggle to get into their 'regular' size. It's worth a read. I found it fascinating (and it nearly compelled me to splash out...)
  • FransJacques
    FransJacques Posts: 2,148
    I'm sorry but I think people who are newbies and not technically adept give up on these shoes too early.

    Those of us who've been into the sport for many moons and ride 8-10 thousand kilometers a year know that the more extreme specialised equipment like wheels, frames, saddles and shoes get the more care and feeding they need.

    Bonts are not Fiziks - fiziks are another top end shoe but come from a very different philosophy - they have tons of padding to be forgiving on fit. Bonts are thin, stripped down like a Ferrari GT40 - no stereo, no leccy windows, no A/C, no ABS nor traction control.

    If you cannot fit them they'll spit you out. Funnily enough I found the latest S-Works very smilar to the Bonts in that respect. Quite stripped down but not so extreme in philosophy.

    Take time to order 3 pairs, not just 2, and really wear them around at home on carpet to feel how they fit.

    If they suit you you'll be rewarded.

    I took mine on a 700km 5 day tour earlier in May in Italy and they were surprisingly awesome in this very non-comeptitive capacity. They're even more killer in a race.
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