Alternatives to the usual suspects - clothing

mroli

Anyone got any thoughts and feedback on any of the following?

Milltag
http://milltag.cc/
As someone who grew up in Oxford during the 90s - am particularly taken with their "Ride" special:


Galibier
http://galibier.cc/
Very well priced kit - quite like this:


Mack
http://mackcycling.com/
Bit random this one - Polish guys, but I do like this:


Looking for people that sell online in UK or Europe (I'm lazy and hate shops), so have discounted these guys amongst others (who would otherwise interest):
http://www.delordcycling.com/
http://volero.com.au/
http://www.capocycling.com/
http://www.apgcycling.com/en/ale

mroli

I'm trying to love Café Du Cycliste http://www.cafeducycliste.com/, but nothing is jumping out and grabbing me.
Same with Vulpine, Torm, Shutt - and I have the feeling it is bad photography that is turning me off! http://www.vulpine.cc/ http://torm.cc/index.html http://www.shuttvr.com/
Jura are ok - but a bit bland and no matching bibs: http://www.juracycleclothing.co.uk/
Chapeau - nice stuff, but silly name:http://www.chapeau.cc/

I'm really interested in whether or not you've owned any of this kit, what it sizes like, quality, service etc. I have pretty much bought Rapha kit (mostly sale and discounted!) for ages, with some bespoke kit from Champ Sys and now just looking for something a bit different, a bit less ubiquitous and a bit "cheaper". But hoping to still get the same quality. For that reason, not really looking at ASSOS, Castelli, Etxeondo, Endura, DHB etc etc. Really interested in bib (pad) quality too - one of the reasons that Rapha got my brand loyalty was that no other bibs gave me the level of comfort I got from their shorts!

So - any thoughts on the above and any suggestions other than those I've mentioned?! Do realise that this is a bit of a how long is a piece of string question - but genuinely interested to see what comes back.

rowlers

I have the Galibier Winter jacket and bibs. Jacket is truly superb and bibs are pretty good too, very nearly on a par with my Giordana winter bibs....
Recommended from me

muttley_109

http://www.morvelo.com

thegreatdivide

New Swedish company www.voidcycling.com

mroli

muttley_109 wrote:

http://www.morvelo.com

Yeah - kind of on the list, but a bit turned off by the fact that they sell on Wiggle and through various other outlets too.... I do love a couple of their jerseys though - the Glitch jersey is nice. I guess I'm looking for something that is a bit harder to find than a wiggle search (I know, like a Google search).....!

reme-luke

Milltag supplies my clubs kit and it's really good quality kit, good fit and a very comfortable pad in the shorts.

mroli

thegreatdivide wrote:

New Swedish company http://www.voidcycling.com

mmm. Keep an eye on them. some nice stuff - minimalist, but this is nice (although there are a few jerseys in a similar style around):

mroli

thanks Rowlers and Reme-Luke. May have to give them a whirl....

Spatulala

https://instagram.com/kitwatch. Think it's Aussie-based(?) but some lovely lesser seen jerseys

mroli

Just found these guys on there - http://belgianboysclub.cc/ nicer than the Rapha Belgian colourway:

Moonbiker

I like the mach stuff

poppit

Isadore looks good, it's Martin Velit's company, now got a shop in Mallorca.http://isadoreapparel.com/

jimmythecuckoo

mroli wrote:

Just found these guys on there - http://belgianboysclub.cc/ nicer than the Rapha Belgian colourway:

Please stop quoting that one... I want to buy it so badly !!!

jimmythecuckoo

Although I also want the Koppenberg one too...

mroli

poppit wrote:

Isadore looks good, it's Martin Velit's company, now got a shop in Mallorca.http://isadoreapparel.com/

You tried any of this stuff? It ain't cheap, but (for example) the Merino base layers look really nice. I'm also quite taken with this for a retro feel:

g00se

Looking for people that sell online in UK or Europe (I'm lazy and hate shops), so have discounted these guys amongst others (who would otherwise interest):
http://www.delordcycling.com/
http://volero.com.au/
http://www.capocycling.com/
http://www.apgcycling.com/en/ale

I've got some capo stuff. It's great kit, the Lombadia jersey is very similar to the Castelli Gabba. You can get it online, Sigma Sports do it, as do others. Just Google 'shop' for Capo Lombadia to find some.

oldbazza

Just got some Howies 3/4s and a ss jersey in a bundle;only worn the shorts so far but they were comfy on a 100k ride,nice and understated in black.

http://www.howies.co.uk/mens/clothing/cycle.html

mroli

Yeah - I've heard good stuff about Howies, just a bit - well, plain?

Update - I got a Galibier order through - the shirt I posted above, team bibs and Roubaix vision 3 gloves. It came quickly (ordered BH Mon, got here Thurs by second class royal mail post). Came in a grey plastic bag with shirt, shorts, gloves and a (free?) buff in with the shirt - each in independent sealable plastic bags. Few cards and stickers and cards in there.

The shirt was "ok" - pretty much a bog standard polyester cycling shirt, just didn't really grab me as a quality product - some of the seams looked like they were stitched weakly and it was a bit of an odd fit - too much room on the chest, but a good fit elsewhere.

The bibs looked fairly decent - not the thick pad of a Rapha classic shorts, but looked decent enough - the one problem was that whilst they were a decent fit elsewhere, the shoulder straps were just too short and felt like I was being crunched up by them.

I love the gloves though - great spring gloves I think - black with some silicon on the palm and up shifting fingers for a bit of grip. I kept those, but the others will be returned. Buying cycling kit online for me is a bit of an experience - I want to feel like I'm getting something great when it comes through the postbox and I just didn't feel it with the Galibier stuff - it is a lot cheaper than (for example) Rapha stuff, but it felt it a bit too - even the stickers were roughly hand cut and uneven. That immediately puts you on the back foot and I felt I was looking for stuff I didn't like and I found it.

lakesluddite

Just another for the mix -Ashmei started out as running gear, but have recently branched out into cycling stuff. Some of the stuff is 'f*** me, how much!', but the jersey is very nice, so much so I raided the savings and bought one from their stand at the Manchester Bike Expo the other week.

http://www.ashmei.com/shop/jerseys-ride/cycling-jersey/

mroli

I was a bit blasé about the f*&k me how much thing, but £230 for a pair of bib shorts is a lot of money...

Looks nice though. Other thing about the Galibier order is that it isn't free returns...

DrLex

Stolen Goat?

hstiles

The Mack Rhombus jersey, especially Green, looks very nice. I'll check them out come pay day.

Lusso gear is fantastic quality and value for money. I own two pairs of Lusso bibs and a pair of 3/4 bibs. They're comfortable and very functional and a bargain.

I won a Morvelo Thermoactive long sleeve jersey and retina burn knee and arm warmers. The warmers are fantastic; warm, comfortable, IMHO very stylish and absolutely guaranteed to get you noticed.

Not cycling wear, but absolutely brilliant for everyday use are Uniqlo heattech short sleeve t-shirts. I use them as base layers.

mroli

DrLex wrote:

Stolen Goat?

Yeah, I thought they only did other brands, but they appear to do their own stuff too. A bit limited in what they offer though and annoyingly no real bibs and shirt matches...

rowlers

I bought one of these recently for commuting:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191484372073? ... EBIDX%3AIT
It is truly worth 3 times (if not more) the price. Fantastic, warm great fit, wind proof in the right places.
I'll probably get another as they are that good.

poppit

mroli wrote:

poppit wrote:

Isadore looks good, it's Martin Velit's company, now got a shop in Mallorca.http://isadoreapparel.com/

You tried any of this stuff? It ain't cheap, but (for example) the Merino base layers look really nice. I'm also quite taken with this for a retro feel:

No, but tempted although don't really need any new kit.

Torm

mroli wrote:

I'm trying to love Café Du Cycliste http://www.cafeducycliste.com/, but nothing is jumping out and grabbing me.
Same with Vulpine, Torm, Shutt - and I have the feeling it is bad photography that is turning me off! http://www.vulpine.cc/ http://torm.cc/index.html http://www.shuttvr.com/
Jura are ok - but a bit bland and no matching bibs: http://www.juracycleclothing.co.uk/
Chapeau - nice stuff, but silly name:http://www.chapeau.cc/

I'm really interested in whether or not you've owned any of this kit, what it sizes like, quality, service etc. I have pretty much bought Rapha kit (mostly sale and discounted!) for ages, with some bespoke kit from Champ Sys and now just looking for something a bit different, a bit less ubiquitous and a bit "cheaper". But hoping to still get the same quality. For that reason, not really looking at ASSOS, Castelli, Etxeondo, Endura, DHB etc etc. Really interested in bib (pad) quality too - one of the reasons that Rapha got my brand loyalty was that no other bibs gave me the level of comfort I got from their shorts!

So - any thoughts on the above and any suggestions other than those I've mentioned?! Do realise that this is a bit of a how long is a piece of string question - but genuinely interested to see what comes back.

Thanks for the feedback on the photography, we've done a little more on that recently but it would be great to understand what kind of photography you would like to see. It's only me and Al at Torm and we try to keep the prices of our products as low as possible by minimising the overheads but we don't want poor photography to put people off.