Iranians at it again...

frenchfighter
frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
edited May 2015 in Pro race
It is a disgrace that this team competes.


MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name) WINS STAGE 4 AT THE TOUR OF TAIWAN IN IRANIAN DOMINATION

Mirsamad Poorseyedigolakhour (Tabriz Petrochemical Team) has taken control of the Tour of Taiwan, winning the race’s queen stage in what was an Iranian domination.

The first four places on the stage went to Iranian riders from a combination of the Tabriz Petrochemical and Pishgaman Giant teams with the next closest rider nearly 90 seconds behind the quartet. Indeed Iranian riders took six of the top 10 spots on a stage that was almost all uphill for nearly the last 70km (at about 3% average).

Here’s an edited version of how Avanti Racing, the team of overnight leader Paddy Bevin, described proceedings:

In what is becoming an all too frequent occurrence, for us anyway, the Iranian teams blew the race to pieces at this year’s Tour of Taiwan. It’s not like it wasn’t expected either it was just impossible to stop.
At 10km to go come it did. The Iranian teams of Tabriz and Pishgaman attacked en masse and despite a concerted effort by the rest of the field they had no answer.

(would add this to the other thread about Iranian riders but search is not working)
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,149
    edited March 2015
    There's no way that Iranians would be on the Juice. They all hate it. They want to drive the Juice into the sea. I think I heard that right.
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  • LeePaton
    LeePaton Posts: 353
    That managed an actual out loud chortle.
    It's not so much about winning, I just hate losing.
  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    RichN95 wrote:
    There's no way that Iranians would be on the Juice. They all hate it. They want to drive the Juice into the sea. I think I heard that right.

    Oh you didn't. Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
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  • sheffsimon
    sheffsimon Posts: 1,282
    frenchfighter wrote:
    It is a disgrace that this team competes.


    MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name) WINS STAGE 4 AT THE TOUR OF TAIWAN IN IRANIAN DOMINATION

    Mirsamad Poorseyedigolakhour (Tabriz Petrochemical Team) has taken control of the Tour of Taiwan, winning the race’s queen stage in what was an Iranian domination.

    The first four places on the stage went to Iranian riders from a combination of the Tabriz Petrochemical and Pishgaman Giant teams with the next closest rider nearly 90 seconds behind the quartet. Indeed Iranian riders took six of the top 10 spots on a stage that was almost all uphill for nearly the last 70km (at about 3% average).

    Here’s an edited version of how Avanti Racing, the team of overnight leader Paddy Bevin, described proceedings:

    In what is becoming an all too frequent occurrence, for us anyway, the Iranian teams blew the race to pieces at this year’s Tour of Taiwan. It’s not like it wasn’t expected either it was just impossible to stop.
    At 10km to go come it did. The Iranian teams of Tabriz and Pishgaman attacked en masse and despite a concerted effort by the rest of the field they had no answer.

    (would add this to the other thread about Iranian riders but search is not working)

    Yet it's OK for proven doper Valverde to compete??
  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,558
    RichN95 wrote:
    There's no way that Iranians would be on the Juice. They all hate it. They want to drive the Juice into the sea. I think I heard that right.

    Very very good :lol::lol::lol:
  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    Stupid name? No more stupid than Alberto Contador or Fabian Cancellara. Tabriz is only one Iranian team.

    Avanti are one of the the worst losers in the world of cycling. That's not an exaggeration. In 2012, when World Tour drop out Oscar Pujol put this team in their place, Avanti (then Genesys) went on a whingy strop about how it was superhuman and suspicious.

    Prior to this year, I'd never thought of Paddy Bevin as a climber. More of a roleur/punchy sprinter. Also would've said that being within 2 minutes of any winner in a mountain stage was a great effort.

    Not to say they're not doping. Possibility is high. But it's lazy to say they're all at it. I don't know, or bother, and I follow Asian racing closely.

    FWIW, Ghader Mizbani is the Asian equivalent of Contador (minus the being caught for doping). Been dominating the scene since Wong Kam Po declined.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    If he was a heavyweight racer and able to destroy everyone consistently he would be picked up by any number of teams competing in Europe. That they don't want him speaks volumes.

    I agree the margins in this race are not huge but they have been many times before and 60% of the top tean being Iranian is not normal.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    frenchfighter wrote:
    MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name)

    Kom op Frenchie, French Fighter probably looks bl88dy silly in Farsi.
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  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    frenchfighter wrote:
    If he was a heavyweight racer and able to destroy everyone consistently he would be picked up by any number of teams competing in Europe. That they don't want him speaks volumes.

    I agree the margins in this race are not huge but they have been many times before and 60% of the top tean being Iranian is not normal.
    How easy is it for Iranians to travel in Europe? Gang Xu, for example, is still waiting for his visa now.

    With regards to being not normal, the Iranian cycling scene is more developed than all other Asian countries. Philippines used to be very strong, but slim pickings apart from that. It's also regulation for them to race and train at 2000+ metre altitudes. Tabriz and Azad Uni (don't exist anymore) send teams that are better on paper. None of that is to exclude doping, but these are never considered. How can Iranians be better?

    The huge wins iirc came only in the Tour of Singkarak and once in Borneo in 2013, of which the latter was surprising. They stack up the numbers in the many Indonesian races around.
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Above The Cows wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name)

    Kom op Frenchie, French Fighter probably looks bl88dy silly in Farsi.

    *Those* shorts would look bloody silly regardless of the setting.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,639
    The_Boy wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name)

    Kom op Frenchie, French Fighter probably looks bl88dy silly in Farsi.

    *Those* shorts would look bloody silly regardless of the setting.

    Whatever point you tried to make, Frenchie, was lost when you mocked the guy's name. Poor form, that.
  • galatzo
    galatzo Posts: 1,295
    Ooo let's not mock another culture that's wrong. Takethemoralhighground more like.
    Perhaps you should have said it's a funny name frenchie, then again people love to be outraged if they possible can.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Yep not stupid you are all right on that. Impossible to pronounce is a more apt description.
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  • above_the_cows
    above_the_cows Posts: 11,406
    The_Boy wrote:
    Above The Cows wrote:
    frenchfighter wrote:
    MIRSAMAD POORSEYEDIGOLAKHOUR (what a stupid name)

    Kom op Frenchie, French Fighter probably looks bl88dy silly in Farsi.

    *Those* shorts would look bloody silly regardless of the setting.

    These shorts?

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  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    Oh boy, best not see the Fuji stage result, FF. (Says I, having made sure you'll have a look now). This is a bit surreal, tbh.
  • Crampeur
    Crampeur Posts: 1,065
    The top 4 have all tested positive at some point in their careers. Nice.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Hahaha!
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  • mfin
    mfin Posts: 6,729
    Crampeur wrote:
    The top 4 have all tested positive at some point in their careers. Nice.

    Probably taking their daily inspiration from Contador.
  • markwb79
    markwb79 Posts: 937
    Thought it was just google translate, but the stage was only 17.4km long. Very odd race.
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  • ClaudeH
    ClaudeH Posts: 78
    Markwb79 wrote:
    Thought it was just google translate, but the stage was only 17.4km long. Very odd race.

    I think it was a mountain TT.
  • markwb79
    markwb79 Posts: 937
    ClaudeH wrote:
    Markwb79 wrote:
    Thought it was just google translate, but the stage was only 17.4km long. Very odd race.

    I think it was a mountain TT.

    According to cyclingdatabase the first stage was a ITT, but doesnt mention it on the last stage.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    http://www.toj.co.jp/stage

    Looks like it was stage 4 not 4 as on cyclingquotient.

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  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    Markwb79 wrote:
    ClaudeH wrote:
    Markwb79 wrote:
    Thought it was just google translate, but the stage was only 17.4km long. Very odd race.

    I think it was a mountain TT.

    According to cyclingdatabase the first stage was a ITT, but doesnt mention it on the last stage.

    This isn't a TT. Just a climb up Mount Fuji. Used to be a TT till a few years ago (2010, maybe). Tomorrow's stage has a couple of hills, had 4000 metres of climbing a couple of years ago. They don't change the routes in Japan much.

    The first stage is a 200 or 300 metres time trial.
  • wombly_knees
    wombly_knees Posts: 657
    Correction, the first stage in the Tour of Kumano is a 300 metre TT. It's a 2.5 km TT in the Tour of Japan.
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    RichN95 wrote:
    There's no way that Iranians would be on the Juice. They all hate it. They want to drive the Juice into the sea. I think I heard that right.

    I'm late to this, but coffee came out of my nose there.

    Hat to you sir! Hat!
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  • jimmythecuckoo
    jimmythecuckoo Posts: 4,712
    Genius thread.

    Let them have a race off against Torku with Mohammed Sayer getting a special guest slot.
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