The law is the law

Manc33

To know the true gun figures in Canada, they would have to all be physically counted. You might say "30%" but thats only the registered ones, isn't it? What about people in Canada with guns that didn't register it, or get a licence? How are those guns being counted? Its all spin like with everything else.

Is it not also true that if you did register a gun in Canada any Canadian citizen could then look up that info to see if you have got a gun or not? It would explain why people might not register their gun, then again it probably isn't compulsory to anyway, although Canadians are made to think it is.

Someone once said Canada is one of the most "micro-managed" countries of all. That is, nearly everyone obeys everything, without question. The nice thing is they aren't all shooting each other like in the US.

bendertherobot

What if you've not properly counted the people in Canada? It's only the registered ones, isn't it? If there were more, because they like conspiracy theories and don't want the man to know, then there may be more of them. And less guns per head. Mind, they'd probably all have guns. And foil. Lots and lots of foil.

First.Aspect

Manc33 wrote:

To know the true gun figures in Canada, they would have to all be physically counted. You might say "30%" but thats only the registered ones, isn't it? What about people in Canada with guns that didn't register it, or get a licence? How are those guns being counted? Its all spin like with everything else.

Is it not also true that if you did register a gun in Canada any Canadian citizen could then look up that info to see if you have got a gun or not? It would explain why people might not register their gun, then again it probably isn't compulsory to anyway, although Canadians are made to think it is.

Someone once said Canada is one of the most "micro-managed" countries of all. That is, nearly everyone obeys everything, without question. The nice thing is they aren't all shooting each other like in the US.

You could say the same about the US. There could be loads of registered guns which don't exist. It could be a consipiracy by the NRA to make us all think that guns are more popular than they are. I mean, unless 90% of people supposedly had guns, no one would ever have gone to see Charlton Heston movies, would they? And look how much money they made.

Lightsabre crime is up too. Again, this has to down to the Lucasfilm lobbyists.

First.Aspect

bendertherobot wrote:

What if you've not properly counted the people in Canada? It's only the registered ones, isn't it? If there were more, because they like conspiracy theories and don't want the man to know, then there may be more of them. And less guns per head. Mind, they'd probably all have guns. And foil. Lots and lots of foil.

Well, they say that 80% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. Quite clearly, then, they store their guns in the US. I don't need proof, its so obvious.

gingaman

Manc33 wrote:

... in the Netherlands weed smoking is legal...

No it isn't.

http://www.holland.com/us/tourism/artic ... policy.htm

gingaman

Manc33 wrote:

Since when have members of the public going on marches ever been able to directly affect Government policy?

did you forget about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_March_ ... ragists%29

Manc33

You have to go back nearly 100 years lol. All you did was proved my point that marching does nothing today.

We live in the year 2015 by the way so unless you've got a time machine... even then no one else would get anything if they marched, only women did because of how absurd their oppression was getting.

Marching to stop wars is another thing entirely. A million people marched in London - over 300 times more people than the suffragettes, but no wars stopped.

Also the suffragettes were marching to vote, so they got absolutely nothing out of it when all political candidates work for the same people above them. As long as they think they are gaining their rights back, thats what matters, not that they do, that they think they do. Try observing the world a bit more and you'll see it yourself.

gingaman wrote:

Manc33 wrote:

... in the Netherlands weed smoking is legal...

No it isn't.

http://www.holland.com/us/tourism/artic ... policy.htm

Yes it is, because people sit around in cafes smoking it and don't get arrested, if they did that in the UK they would get arrested. Or were you just trying to sound like a smart-ass for the sake of it?

Why do people go there to smoke weed then?

Yes it is legal, not seen the cafe's?

Hey guess what, up is down and down is up because I am telling you it is so it must be. :roll:

OK then genius... if it is illegal why aren't cops busting in every time anyone lights a spliff in a cafe? Shouldn't they be collecting revenue from that?

If "illegal activities are allowed" which is what you're trying to bullshit me with, then every other thing in Holland that is illegal at that level of law must also be allowed too?

Can't have it both ways and pretending you can isn't smart, it just shows you have no consistency and are talking out of your ass. Something is illegal but legal all at the same time huh, good one... tell it to someone else that might actually take that crap seriously.

greg66_tri_v2.0

Ever thought that when someone gives you link it might be worth reading it?

No, thought not.

Kieran_Burns

I'll save you the effort:

The Netherlands is famous for its tolerant drugs policy. But a lot of people don’t realize that drugs are in fact illegal in the Netherlands. Understanding the Dutch drug policy can spare you a lot of trouble.

All drugs are forbidden in the Netherlands. It is illegal to produce, possess, sell, import and export drugs. However, the government designed a drug policy with tolerates smoking cannabis under strict terms and conditions.

I mean it's only the first flaming paragraph.

The Rookie

Manc33 wrote:

In Canada most people own guns but there's barely any shootings. You can point at the US and say look at all their shootings but I would rather look at Canada to see what's possible.

Well if by barely you mean 9 times the rate of gunshot deaths as in the UK, then yes (2.22/100,000 versus 0.25 in the UK), but yes they are at about 1/5 the US rate.

As arguments go that is one of your less successful ones in amongst many other unsuccessful ones!

gingaman

Manc33 wrote:

frothy mouthed drivel

No need to get upset. My facts are correct. Yours are spurious at best

chris_bass

Manc33 wrote:

Can't have it both ways and pretending you can isn't smart, it just shows you have no consistency and are talking out of your ass. Something is illegal but legal all at the same time huh, good one... tell it to someone else that might actually take that crap seriously.

Isn't this exactly what you have been saying for the entirety of this thread?

slowbike

So - this girl .... she was a gun toting, weed smoking cyclist whilst her Dad wasn't paying his mortgage on the basis that the bank didn't exist because it was in warp drive. The policeman didn't think slapping them with a £30 FPN was going to be sensible as nobody had lost anything, so thought he'd take the bike instead, but didn't have room in the boot of the car so was going to wait until she'd ridden it a bit further so he could drop it off with a mate without having to hang the bike out of the window. Meanwhile, the war on Fractional Lending was declared illegal because nobody had the money and nobody could prove that nobody had the money, but no fine was imposed because no loss had occured, so there was a mass march on it and a couple of prominent people died of mysterious common illnesses in a few years time.

Thanks for clearing that up.

doping_to_keep_up

Manc33 has gone quiet. First Robin Cook, now Manc33