Another EPO +ve: Lloyd Mondory

Pokerface
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edited March 2015 in Pro race
Nabbed in an OOC test: http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-sta ... d-mondory/
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    2 days after coming 7th in the Clasica de Almeria. And he'd had a 'good start' to his season....
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    What a chump
  • slim_boy_fat
    slim_boy_fat Posts: 1,810
    Excellent. Another loser caught is one less loser in the sport.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Another Frenchman on the dope and another AG2R rider.
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  • dish_dash
    dish_dash Posts: 5,647
    I thought the French didn't dope?

    It's also another positive from an MPCC team. How long is that organisation going to be around for?
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    https://twitter.com/EdwardPickering/sta ... 9930392577
  • Macaloon
    Macaloon Posts: 5,545
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    ...a rare 100% loyal Pro Race poster. A poster boy for the community.
  • gweeds
    gweeds Posts: 2,613
    Lloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lloyd-Im-Ready- ... eartbroken
    Napoleon, don't be jealous that I've been chatting online with babes all day. Besides, we both know that I'm training to be a cage fighter.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Macaloon wrote:
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?
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  • r0bh
    r0bh Posts: 2,447
    Gweeds wrote:
    Lloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lloyd-Im-Ready- ... eartbroken

    Tune!
  • thomthom
    thomthom Posts: 3,574
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?

    Just did what he had done in all the previous years..
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    ThomThom wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?

    Just did what he had done in all the previous years..
    Perhaps. But why keep going now? It's not like he's expected to win. By this stage his career his future isn't going to rest on 5% gains.
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Maybe he enjoyed it.
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    RichN95 wrote:
    ThomThom wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?

    Just did what he had done in all the previous years..
    Perhaps. But why keep going now? It's not like he's expected to win. By this stage his career his future isn't going to rest on 5% gains.

    He needed the dope just to sit on the autobus, but work ethic not allowing him to sit on the bench collecting a paycheck? Fed up not having any major wins to his name with his career coming to an end?
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  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    Or, for the benefits of his lawyers, his b-sample will come back negative and it's just one of those things.
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  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,822
    As Inrng points out, 4 year bans now, so that's his career over if confirmed positive
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    As Inrng points out, 4 year bans now, so that's his career over if confirmed positive
    Even with a two year ban it would have been. He offers little of note to a World Tour team and all the Pro Conti teams are in the MPCC.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    RichN95 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    As Inrng points out, 4 year bans now, so that's his career over if confirmed positive
    Even with a two year ban it would have been. He offers little of note to a World Tour team and all the Pro Conti teams are in the MPCC.

    So are all the teams with riders getting busted.
  • argyllflyer
    argyllflyer Posts: 893
    sjmclean wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    As Inrng points out, 4 year bans now, so that's his career over if confirmed positive
    Even with a two year ban it would have been. He offers little of note to a World Tour team and all the Pro Conti teams are in the MPCC.

    So are all the teams with riders getting busted.

    The MPCC is perfectly summed up by the CIRC section on p67 that says one of its key managerial members - "senior person in a prominent anti-doping movement" - is running a team-wide doping programme. A haven for hypocrits.
  • milton50
    milton50 Posts: 3,856
    Gweeds wrote:
    Lloyd, I'm ready to be heartbroken

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lloyd-Im-Ready- ... eartbroken

    Respect for knowing about Camera Obscura.
    RichN95 wrote:
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?

    It's an interesting one. You could argue the reverse of what you're saying i.e. because he is near retirement he has decided that it's worth the risk to try and collect a few more wins in some chipper or other. Either way it shows absolutely no compunction about doping.
  • fleshtuxedo
    fleshtuxedo Posts: 1,858
    RichN95 wrote:
    ThomThom wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    Macaloon wrote:
    A vivid demonstration of the miserable returns available from doping these days.
    You wonder why he bothered. He apparently had a contract until the end of 2016 by which he would have been at AG2R for 13 seasons with next to no results. So his future wouldn't have been dependent on that. What was he hoping to achieve?

    Just did what he had done in all the previous years..
    Perhaps. But why keep going now? It's not like he's expected to win. By this stage his career his future isn't going to rest on 5% gains.

    To keep himself in a job? Maybe he needed it all along just to survive.
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    joe2008 wrote:
    ‘It was about gruelling defeats, complete and utter exhaustion and it was about drugs. Not drugs that would ensure victory, but drugs that would allow you to finish the race and start another day.’

    Paul Kimmage, Rough Rider.

    That was when it was Nitrous Oxide vs 4 Star. These days it appears to be more Super Unleaded vs Unleaded (or in Wiggo's case, Diesel, or for Cheng Ji, hybrid as he always drops down towards the end)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    Bardet says sorry for team mates failings.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... ive-161810
  • The_Boy
    The_Boy Posts: 3,099
    sjmclean wrote:
    Bardet says sorry for team mates failings.

    http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/lat ... ive-161810

    More significant (imo) is that Lavenu is hanging him out to dry.
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  • frenchfighter
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  • timoid.
    timoid. Posts: 3,133
    Why do people assume he started doping now?
    It's a little like wrestling a gorilla. You don't quit when you're tired. You quit when the gorilla is tired.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    RichN95 wrote:
    Perhaps. But why keep going now? It's not like he's expected to win. By this stage his career his future isn't going to rest on 5% gains.

    EPO's fairly punchy. Presumably he was worried that he wouldn't get to 2016 with some artificial assistance. Maybe he got to 2015 relying on it?
    _
  • joelsim
    joelsim Posts: 7,552
    Timoid. wrote:
    Why do people assume he started doping now?

    Exactly. He could easily have been getting away with it for years. Just an unlucky out of competition strike.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    Team doctors want him to explain his actions: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mondory ... g2r-doctor

    "Asked about Mondory’s use of EPO, Bouvat commented: “It is really important for him to explain his actions, as that would help us to increase our understanding of this problem.”

    Errr..... do they want him to explain how he got away with it for so long so they can educate their other riders not to make the same mistakes?

    They say they have an internal testing system in place to prevent this type of positive. How is that different from UCI testing?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,259
    Pokerface wrote:
    Team doctors want him to explain his actions: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mondory ... g2r-doctor

    "Asked about Mondory’s use of EPO, Bouvat commented: “It is really important for him to explain his actions, as that would help us to increase our understanding of this problem.”

    Errr..... do they want him to explain how he got away with it for so long so they can educate their other riders not to make the same mistakes?

    They say they have an internal testing system in place to prevent this type of positive. How is that different from UCI testing?
    But maybe he didn't get away with it for so long. Maybe he only recently started. And if that is the case it is certainly does merit finding out why he did it.
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