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reduced 11 speed cassette on 10 speed hub

coinneachcoinneach Posts: 78
edited March 2018 in Workshop
Hi, advice wanted on this subject.
I have almost new Easton sl90 wheels which only take 10 speed, and the freehhub doesnt seem to be replaceable.
I am wanting to go up to Di2, which nowadays is only 11 speed, but I resent the waste of wheel, so have come up with the following "cunning plan", but am not sure it will work, so advice welcome!
Can I use an 11 speed cassette with one of the sets of teeth (ie, the 11 sprocket) missing?
In particular, A) will the cassette fit securely?
B) will the mech have the right intervals?
C) can you use limit screws on Di2 to stop after 10?
thanks in advance for comments
"It is good to have an end to journey toward, but it is the journey that matters in the end."

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  • mamba80mamba80 Posts: 5,032
    http://eastoncycling.com/en-us/road/com ... -11-speed/

    Would this fit your wheel?
  • ugo.santaluciaugo.santalucia Posts: 25,701
    The last sprocket of the cassette needs to have the teeth to engage with the locking. As long as the locking can be tightened and put compression force on the cassette, you are up to a winner. I think it's the most economical solution... the low end of the cassette is pretty useless anyway...
    http://whosatthewheel.com
  • trailflowtrailflow Posts: 1,311
    One thing you'll need to be careful with. If you accidently shift into the 11th position it cannot go into because of the limit stop. It may damage the derailleur motor.

    This thread might help
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 4&t=119299
  • coinneachcoinneach Posts: 78
    trailflow wrote:
    One thing you'll need to be careful with. If you accidently shift into the 11th position it cannot go into because of the limit stop. It may damage the derailleur motor.

    This thread might help
    http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... 4&t=119299

    Thanks, interesting thread.....
    Presumably if one did make the mistake of trying to beyond the smallest cassette, you'd have a few seconds to realise your error before damaging the motor?

    Anyone esle using a 10 speed cassette & 11 speed shifters?
    Or would this only work with dura ace?
    "It is good to have an end to journey toward, but it is the journey that matters in the end."
  • bobbymeisterbobbymeister Posts: 186
    I use an 11spd shifter/mech/cassette combo on some 10 speed winter wheels.
    I removed the 16, put the spare spacer to the back next to the freehub and stopped the mech off accordingly.
    Works perfectly.
  • planned_obsolescenceplanned_obsolescence Posts: 3
    coinneach wrote:
    Hi, advice wanted on this subject.
    thanks in advance for comments
    I'm using this product with Ultegra Di2 11s on old Dura Ace wheel.
    It works perfectly.
    http://www.lascoconcept.com/en/11s-cassette/
  • svettysvetty Posts: 1,904
    The latest 11-34 Ultegra R8000 11speed cassette fits 10 speed freehubs.....
    FFS! Harden up and grow a pair :D
  • cld531ccld531c Posts: 517
    svetty wrote:
    The latest 11-34 Ultegra R8000 11speed cassette fits 10 speed freehubs.....

    Thats interesting....how did you find that out? Thanks
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    Last gen 11 speed cassettes fit into ten speed hubs. I have one on my carbon tubular 10 speed 60s and also on my 10 speed 58mm Supra wheels.

    Just try it and see.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • cld531ccld531c Posts: 517
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Last gen 11 speed cassettes fit into ten speed hubs. I have one on my carbon tubular 10 speed 60s and also on my 10 speed 58mm Supra wheels.

    Just try it and see.

    Cheers - thinking of Dirk's Spinergys :-)
  • 964cup964cup Posts: 1,359
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Last gen 11 speed cassettes fit into ten speed hubs. I have one on my carbon tubular 10 speed 60s and also on my 10 speed 58mm Supra wheels.

    Just try it and see.
    Presumably this is only true of wide-range cassettes, where the large cog will leave enough standoff space for the derailleur to clear the spokes?
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    964cup wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Last gen 11 speed cassettes fit into ten speed hubs. I have one on my carbon tubular 10 speed 60s and also on my 10 speed 58mm Supra wheels.

    Just try it and see.
    Presumably this is only true of wide-range cassettes, where the large cog will leave enough standoff space for the derailleur to clear the spokes?

    12-23 or 12-25 on both. One of the two.

    Just bolted them on and set up the mech.

    The Supras with an 11 cassette also work fine with Ultegra di2 on an S5.
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
  • MatthewfalleMatthewfalle Posts: 17,380
    cld531c wrote:
    Matthewfalle wrote:
    Last gen 11 speed cassettes fit into ten speed hubs. I have one on my carbon tubular 10 speed 60s and also on my 10 speed 58mm Supra wheels.

    Just try it and see.

    Cheers - thinking of Dirk's Spinergys :-)


    Pwhoooooaaar - Dirk with 11 speed SR on Spinergys.

    Good thinking that man - I like your style. :)
    Postby team47b » Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:53 am

    De Sisti wrote:
    This is one of the silliest threads I've come across. :lol:

    Recognition at last Matthew, well done!, a justified honour :D
    smithy21 wrote:

    He's right you know.
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