The Isis of London

hopak

It leaves you speechless.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/r ... ondon.html

arthur_scrimshaw

I though the Isis was a river in Oxford?

keef66

And the former Downton Abbey pooch.

chris_bass

and a cheap brand of TV

Manc33

ISIS is a made up thing where its leaders are double agents working with western intelligence services.

When there's no real terrorism going on you have to invent it.

Its getting to be common knowledge now after it was found Haroon Rashid Aswat was/is a western intelligence asset who was on a terrorist watch list whilst at the same time able to flit from country to country as he pleased without being arrested. John Loftus reported on it and said the only way he could do that was if he was one of our guys.

"NSA Doc Reveals ISIS Leader Al-Baghdadi is U.S., British and Israeli Intelligence Asset"

People with a lot more know-how on these subjects like John Loftus are probably right otherwise why say it.

Sad, but not surprising.

If you watch the film JFK it pretty much shows you how it works, one day Oswald is a Communist, the next day he is anti-Communist. Useful but always expendable. All these guys are friends behind closed doors. How much money must they be paying someone like Aswat.

Also if something like this can leak out onto the internet with 100% publicity, how bad must it really be. One thing that is noteworthy in JFK is when Mr. X says "Look at who has the power to declare war". Whoever that is, is running things - all sides.

tomisitt

Nurse! NURSE!!!! Time for Manc33's medication!

stretchy

Manc33 wrote:

Its getting to be common knowledge now after it was found Haroon Rashid Aswat was/is a western intelligence asset who was on a terrorist watch list whilst at the same time able to flit from country to country as he pleased without being arrested. John Loftus reported on it and said the only way he could do that was if he was one of our guys.
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Well if were i terrorist i'd also become an intelligence asset precisely so i could flit from country to country. Not to mention the added benefit of my enemy trusting me while i control what information they receive.

asjc

tomisitt wrote:

Nurse! NURSE!!!! Time for Manc33's medication!

Very good response-I have very nearly just wet myself laughing so hard..............

chris_bass

Manc33 wrote:

When there's no real terrorism going on you have to invent it.

why?

vermin

George W Bush gave it away when, in a momentary lapse, he accidentally referred to them as "tourists".

Still watching...

bompington

Listen, sheeple, you've got to realise that there's no such thing as Manc33 - he's a GCHQ bot designed to keep you entertained so you don't notice the giant lizards taking over the world behind you.

arthur_scrimshaw

Chris Bass wrote:

Manc33 wrote:

When there's no real terrorism going on you have to invent it.

why?

To keep the tin foil hat makers in business of course.

veronese68

Manc33 wrote:

Lunacy...

People with a lot more know-how on these subjects like John Loftus are probably right otherwise why say it.

...more insanity.

Because they are publicity whores. He appears regularly on Fox News, the same network that said Birmingham is Muslim only and Paris has 741 no go areas. That's worse than believing what the Daily Express headlines say about weather or what the Daily Mail says about cancer.

Manc33

Chris Bass wrote:

Manc33 wrote:

When there's no real terrorism going on you have to invent it.

why?

To keep everyone fighting. It also makes everyone turn to the Government for "help" (which in reality is a clampdown on everyone).

Remember Bush saying the terrorists hate us for our freedom? Then he introduced something where all it does is takes away people's freedom - the Patriot Act. Clever eh!

This is the guy that stole the election in 2000 using electronic vote rigging and even did the same thing again in 2004 and got away with it. See the Clinton Curtis testimony on YouTube, he is in a courtroom so forget the "its on YouTube, can't be true hurr durr" rubbish you lot usually spout to casually ignore stuff is happening.

If people just said "OK its true but I am ignoring it" I would accept that, but people use every stupid tactic like talking about tin foil hats when I never mentioned wearing one. Talking about aliens, reptiles or whatever when I am talking about John Loftus and Clinton Curtis. Think about why you have to react that way in the first place or, why you think its normal.

It isn't BS just because it is on YouTube, that is just a childish outlook and shows a huge lack of discernment and integrity.

What next then, Clinton Curtis isn't really in a courtroom and its all staged? You can say its staged but when I say anything is staged I must have a tin foil hat on? Nice.

meanredspider

So why do you think Bush did it? What's the motive of all these conspiracies?

Manc33

meanredspider wrote:

So why do you think Bush did it? What's the motive of all these conspiracies?

Bush didn't have to do anything, it was all done for him. The motive is obvious - staying in power. They preferred Bush to Gore and then 4 years later, they preferred Bush to Kerry. (See blackboxvoting.org)

Even Al Gore jokes about how he should have really been the President, he is right, but being a part of the same gang as Bush, he hardly cares about that, hence the joking I guess. Bush also once joked about how he can't find Bin Laden, hilarious. Hardly surprising when the guy died in November 2001.

Gore is the guy that switched two lines around on a graph to pretend rises in CO2 cause rises in temperature, when the opposite was true. (See "The Great Global Warming Swindle"). He also had shares in the carbon credit/tax software at the time of doing his "Inconvenient Truth" I mean Convenient Lie video. No conflict of interest or anything! :roll: Let's just ignore it all.

chris_bass

ok, so if it is all a massive conspiracy, everyone who has even a remote bit of power is in on it, then why do they let people post stuff on youtube exposing it? wouldn't they just remove the videos?

Manc33

Chris Bass wrote:

ok, so if it is all a massive conspiracy, everyone who has even a remote bit of power is in on it, then why do they let people post stuff on youtube exposing it? wouldn't they just remove the videos?

They do remove videos but they can't remove them all. Any they do remove get uploaded again, most times. At some point they just accept that the info got out but they don't want it to.

Why would the most influential family in history be left out of the school curriculum? I mean why wouldn't they tell us if one gang of international bankers are funding world wars and instead only tell us we all just happen to fight with each other by sheer random fluke?

Because that's not the life they want everyone living and that's not the life everyone lives! You call people that try telling you this stuff conspiracy theorists. My dad used to say the same to me - "Where did you get that from, some guy sat in his basement on the internet" when it could be a guy testifying under oath in a courtroom. So then it isn't some guy sat in his basement and people are far too presumptuous. I wouldn't be f**king telling you it otherwise and the fact that people think I am so stupid all the time only says something about them, to me. When they have no clue why I am saying something anyway and don't even know what the source is. People know something is wrong simply because they always have to pretend it isn't a viable source, whether it is or isn't.

All the stuff I have pointed out and people have said "but this guy is a quack" lol. Why, because you want him to be? Get a grip/clue. Add to this the fact that not one single explanation has been given for a lot of stuff I have said like the epileptic fits being quelled by hemp oil. Why isn't anyone denying that or banging on about how the kid being treated must be in on a conspiracy? I might speculate a lot but its based on real stuff and I am able to speculate/predict if I know other stuff.

Remember when Google Video used to have view counts then suddenly stopped it? They stopped those view counts just as Alex Jones was reaching #1 on the most viewed. Just another coincidence like everything else. Then of course YouTube gobbled it up with its ten minute long video limitation so no subject could be covered for any great length, leaving it down to people to muck around with the header in their video file to allow it to be longer than ten minutes.

veronese68

Chris Bass wrote:

ok, so if it is all a massive conspiracy, everyone who has even a remote bit of power is in on it, then why do they let people post stuff on youtube exposing it? wouldn't they just remove the videos?

Don't forget all the scientists and academics that are also in on the climate change conspiracies. :roll:

dinyull

Maniac33 wrote:

Remember when Google Video used to have view counts then suddenly stopped it? They stopped those view counts just as Alex Jones was reaching #1 on the most viewed. Just another coincidence like everything else. Then of course YouTube gobbled it up with its ten minute long video limitation so no subject could be covered for any great length.

To be fair, she is banging!

meanredspider

It's too funny. I'm sorry, I'm a realist and I know that the world isn't perfect but there's enough evil in the world without the need for anybody to invent any. There always has been. Charles 1 invented Cromwell so that he could stay on power - it just backfired a bit. The Brits invented the IRA so someone could stay in power. Obama has invented ISIS so he can stay in power (oh, wait a minute). Thatcher must have paid the Junta to invade the Falklands because the IRA weren't doing a good enough job of being evil. Or was that the Loyalists? Or Mugabe? Maybe the pirates are invented. What about Syria - that's another conspiracy that's got a bit out of hand. Ukraine? How long should I go on? And, once again, I haven't mentioned the guy with the toothbrush tasche.

Edit - forgot to add that YouTube has always had counters

chris_bass

Manc33 wrote:

Chris Bass wrote:

ok, so if it is all a massive conspiracy, everyone who has even a remote bit of power is in on it, then why do they let people post stuff on youtube exposing it? wouldn't they just remove the videos?

They do remove videos but they can't remove them all. Any they do remove get uploaded again, most times. At some point they just accept that the info got out but they don't want it to.

Why would the most influential family in history be left out of the school curriculum? I mean why wouldn't they tell us if one gang of international bankers are funding world wars and instead only tell us we all just happen to fight with each other by sheer random fluke?

Because that's not the life they want everyone living and that's not the life everyone lives! You call people that try telling you this stuff conspiracy theorists. My dad used to say the same to me - "Where did you get that from, some guy sat in his basement on the internet" when it could be a guy testifying under oath in a courtroom. So then it isn't some guy sat in his basement and people are far too presumptuous. I wouldn't be f**king telling you it otherwise and the fact that people think I am so stupid all the time only says something about them, to me. When they have no clue why I am saying something anyway and don't even know what the source is. People know something is wrong simply because they always have to pretend it isn't a viable source, whether it is or isn't.

All the stuff I have pointed out and people have said "but this guy is a quack" lol. Why, because you want him to be? Get a grip/clue. Add to this the fact that not one single explanation has been given for a lot of stuff I have said like the epileptic fits being quelled by hemp oil. Why isn't anyone denying that or banging on about how the kid being treated must be in on a conspiracy? I might speculate a lot but its based on real stuff and I am able to speculate/predict if I know other stuff.

Remember when Google Video used to have view counts then suddenly stopped it? They stopped those view counts just as Alex Jones was reaching #1 on the most viewed. Just another coincidence like everything else. Then of course YouTube gobbled it up with its ten minute long video limitation so no subject could be covered for any great length, leaving it down to people to muck around with the header in their video file to allow it to be longer than ten minutes.

As far as the hemp oil goes, i'm not very familiar with it, but can you find any medical research that had a 100% faliure rate? some children may well have been helped by it but i bet there are a lot out there that aren't. But even if it does work, what would be the point in not letting people know about it? people would still need to buy it, there would still be money to be made.

Anyway, even if it is all true, half of it is true any of it is true, i'm glad i don't believe it, your world sounds like hell and i'm glad i'm not as paranoid as you.

Manc33

Veronese68 wrote:

Chris Bass wrote:

ok, so if it is all a massive conspiracy, everyone who has even a remote bit of power is in on it, then why do they let people post stuff on youtube exposing it? wouldn't they just remove the videos?

Don't forget all the scientists and academics that are also in on the climate change conspiracies. :roll:

Not sure if you saw the Great Global Warming Swindle when it was on Channel 4 but this explains how the "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" added thousands of names of scientists and meteorologists to its list of people that support the idea that humans are causing global warming, all without their consent. Plenty of them actually had the opposite view. It tells you in this documentary, anyone even remotely related to a scientist got added. Got a dog? Add it to the list.

Its far more believable that the sun would be causing global warming since other planets in the solar system are also warmer now than in the past, not just Earth. There it is debunked in one sentence.

I would hardly call knowing about stuff "paranoia" lol. Take it or leave it. Thanks for being concerned though.

chris_bass

Manc33 wrote:

Its far more believable that the sun would be causing global warming since other planets in the solar system are also warmer now than in the past, not just Earth. There it is debunked in one sentence.

why can't it be both?

if i put cold water in my kettle and it is a warm day, the water would warm up to room temperature, but if i switch the kettle on it will get warmer and quicker. Now because the water was heating up anyway are we to assume the kettle had no affect?

craigus89

Is this guy still here? I haven't been on here in a while and I come back and he is still ruining every third thread with his conspiracy bo****ks.

You, sir, are mental.

chris_bass

Craigus89 wrote:

Is this guy still here? I haven't been on here in a while and I come back and he is still ruining every third thread with his conspiracy bo****ks.

You, sir, are mental.

+1

Manc33

"Ruining"

What's up am I making you think?

chris_bass

Manc33 wrote:

"Ruining"

What's up am I making you think?

no, you are going off topic, wildly off topic and therefore ruining a thread, someone asked what to do with their phone and you went off on one.

this time a taxi driver has a go at cyclists (admittedly likening them to a terrorist group) and you are off again!

vermin

Manc33 wrote:

"Ruining"

What's up am I making you think?

Err, in a sense, yes. You just made me think of Runrig. Stop it.

craigus89

Manc33 wrote:

"Ruining"

What's up am I making you think?

Yes, making me think you are bat shit crazy.

You have the rare talent of somehow derailing topics about cycling, turning them into discussions of how the world is run by the illuminati.

Usually people are banned when they constantly take threads off-topic, somehow you avoid it and have over a thousand posts of mostly drivel.

tomisitt

There's a little-known clause in Godwin's Law that states that any half-interesting thread on bikeradar will eventually become mired in Manc33's bonkers conspiracy theories. Best not to engage with the lunacy.

Getting back to the point of this thread, it's great to see the anti-cycling lobby (London Taxi Drivers Assoc and National Express coaches chairman) making themselves look really stupid with these kinds of comments.