Garmin Autopause, Garmin Auto Resume

dizarch
dizarch Posts: 152
edited February 2015 in Road general
Recently, my Garmin Edge 800 has started regularly Autopausing and then immediately resuming again. If I was struggling up a 20% climb when it happened I could understand the unit's desire to laughingly highlight my hill climbing frailties but it seems a bit harsh to pause when I'm rattling downhill at 30mph.

I've tried to look for a pattern as to when it happens but to no avail, it just seems to occur randomly.

Any thoughts or constructive advice would be very welcome cos I'm currently losing about 2 miles in 50 but would rather find a solution that does involve turning the Autopause function off.
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  • That's intriguing.

    My first port-of-call would be to fiddle with the speed threshold at which the auto pause kicks in. I think I've got mine set to 2 kmh, but if you bump it up a few notches from where you are at the moment it might help alleviate the problem.

    As a side note, the last couple of weeks I've noticed the GPS tracks from a few runs using my Garmin Forerunner have been a lot sketchier than usual. Perhaps the weather formations and thick cloud cover over the UK at the moment aren't exactly ideal for GPS reception? Just a thought.
  • Are you using speed/cadence sensors on multiple bikes and swapping the Garmin from bike to bike? Multiple sensors can cause the unit to go a bit crazy sometimes causing this autopause issue to crop up. The fix was to delete the sensor data and start again.

    Clearing the ride history might help too.
  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,981
    On the same tack as the previous post... if you are using a speed sensor as opposed to getting speed from the gps function you may find the speed sensor isn't working correctly... the unit will then try and use the speed from the gps and gets into a mess... (that's based on a problem I had briefly on my G500).
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  • city_boy
    city_boy Posts: 1,616
    I had an issue with auto pause coming on intermittently whist moving and it turned out to be the spoke magnet had come loose and was spinning around the spoke. Might be worth checking this and the magnet alignment with the sensor arm.
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  • dizarch
    dizarch Posts: 152
    To my wife's delight and my continued horror and disbelief, I only have one bike and I rely on GPS rather than sensor so I will give resetting a go when I'm out tomorrow.

    Many thanks for the suggestions folks, much appreciated:-)
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  • This exact same thing happened to me a little while back on my Garmin Edge 705. Drove me mad for a few days - I changed all sorts of settings until I twigged exactly what the problem was. I fixed it in two minutes flat. It was the battery in the sensor on my wheel - I changed the battery, boom, problem solved. Hope that helps.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    There are a number of reasons why but the cause is likely to be your wheel sensor occasionally missing a rotation. This could be because the magnet has slipped and is on the edge of being too far from the sensor, the sensor has slipped and is too far away, the battery needs replacing or as in my case, moisture has got into the 'reed' (the little switch in the end of the sensor arm that detects the magnet passing) and it does not move as freely as it should. In my case the only answer was to replace the speed sensor. Tried battery, positioning, everything - it was also usually OK in dry conditions but when it got wet it started skipping the occasional rotation so the device thought I had momentarily stopped. In the short term I disabled the sensor until replaced.
  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Oh, and the reed going is quite common (google it) - usually replaced under warranty by Garmin, sometimes even outside warranty if you are lucky.
  • dabber
    dabber Posts: 1,981
    The OP has said he doesn't use a sensor and relies on gps speed.
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  • apreading
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    Ah - good point, missed that bit.

    However - are you saying you dont use a sensor at all? Just checking because we have had debates on here before where people think the wheel sensor is just for measuring distance not speed, which is incorrect.

    As you say it occurs randomly, I assume it is not on the same downhill but which is covered with loads of trees or in between tall buildings?

    How old is the unit?
  • dizarch
    dizarch Posts: 152
    I went out today and while descending at 42mph I got the somewhat ironic message "Autopause". This was followed by a series of repeated and rapid fire "Auto pause, auto resume" messages before the Garmin finally froze completely on autopause. I rebooted it and the same happened again.

    In a hitherto unsuspected moment of technical clarity, it occured to me to turn off the guidance on the route I was following and lo and behold, no more problems for the remaining 40 miles - apart from getting hideously lost of course!!.

    I'm now sure it is something to do with the route guidance but how to fix it is beyond this particular luddite sadly.
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  • Just a random thought but is the memory very full?

    I'm just wondering if the processor is somehow getting overwhelmed and slowing down to the point that it's not processing speed properly (hence triggering the auto pause)? Turning off turn guidance I think frees up the processor a fair bit (I'm always irritated by how long my 800 takes to do the "calculating" before setting off when turn guidance is switched on). Allowing recalculation might be contributing if that's switched on.

    You might also consider doing a full factory reset
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  • Hi all,
    I have recently got a new bike and to compliment the new bike, I bought a SRAM outfront mount. On the last couple of runs I have had this same auto-pause and auto-resume issue that you are referring to.

    One other difference is that I also moved the GSC10 from my summer bike to the new bike. Previously I had not been having any trouble with auto pause / resume on my winter bike, but I was not running the GSC10 speed / cadence meter on that winter bike. I just moved it across when the new winter bike arrived.

    I changed from a more stretched out position to a more upright position bike (Giant Defy), and the one thing I have noticed is that it only happens when I am out of the saddle and over the bars.

    As I see it, I have the following potential causes...

    1. I'm blocking the satellite signal when I sit up.
    2. The issue is with the GSC10 - poor battery power perhaps, dodgy reed, or slipping magnet (unlikely).
    3. I have too many events saved on the history of the Garmin Edge 500 unit.

    Any thoughts/input on the above would be appreciated.

    Cheers,
    D
  • NeXXus
    NeXXus Posts: 854
    Lower the speed in your auto pause setting
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    If you are using the GSC10 then satellite reception will have no effect on autopause - this works purely from the speed sensor. So item number 2 (one of those options) almost certainly.
  • Hi all,
    I have recently got a new bike and to compliment the new bike, I bought a SRAM outfront mount. On the last couple of runs I have had this same auto-pause and auto-resume issue that you are referring to.

    One other difference is that I also moved the GSC10 from my summer bike to the new bike. Previously I had not been having any trouble with auto pause / resume on my winter bike, but I was not running the GSC10 speed / cadence meter on that winter bike. I just moved it across when the new winter bike arrived.

    I changed from a more stretched out position to a more upright position bike (Giant Defy), and the one thing I have noticed is that it only happens when I am out of the saddle and over the bars.

    As I see it, I have the following potential causes...

    1. I'm blocking the satellite signal when I sit up.
    2. The issue is with the GSC10 - poor battery power perhaps, dodgy reed, or slipping magnet (unlikely).
    3. I have too many events saved on the history of the Garmin Edge 500 unit.

    Any thoughts/input on the above would be appreciated.

    Cheers,
    D
    UPDATE: I removed all of the events saved in my history and this morning, over 38 miles, I had no issues.
    With that said though, I think a new battery is on the horizon.
  • dizarch
    dizarch Posts: 152
    Restored the factory settings, put my preferences back in and bingo, back in business, 50 miler today and all perfectly guided by the Garmin.

    Just to keep me on my toes, the cadence magnet fell off somewhere but at least we didn't get lost:-)
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  • apreading
    apreading Posts: 4,535
    Eh - do you have cadence sensor on the pedal but not speed sensor on the wheel?
  • on-yer-bike
    on-yer-bike Posts: 2,974
    Cadence speed sensor caused mine to do the same thing yesterday. Probably got water in it. I selected Bike 2 on the Garmin which doesnt match to a sensor and it worked fine. I wonder if the new sensor is better?
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