Are there downsides to being "overbiked"?

slowmart

None whatsoever. The acquisition of a top end cycle shines a light on your either your financial strength or your perception of debt and in no way reflects your ability or lack of.

That's why I love cycling, its a great leveller as soon as the pedals start turning.

Then again there are always some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels.....

KnightOfTheLongTights

Slowmart wrote:

None whatsoever. The acquisition of a top end cycle shines a light on your either your financial strength or your perception of debt and in no way reflects your ability or lack of.

That's why I love cycling, its a great leveller as soon as the pedals start turning.

Then again there are always some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels.....

But there are some contradictions there aren't there?
Because most of the people who buy bikes of a spec / expense that far outweighs their needs in terms of riding ARE indulging in a sort of materialism / conspicuous consumption. So if they are regarded as such by more frugal / understated riders then that's to be expected and to a certain extent justified.
It doesn't mean don't do it, but you have to accept that - as a fat bloke huffing and puffing at 15mph, and even worse riding in a poorly skilled or erratic manner, on a Pinarello Dogma - you will be seen by many as a bit of a charlie with your flash gear and no idea. And it's your job to bear that, presumably smug in the knowledge that you can afford it?

ai_1

KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

None whatsoever. The acquisition of a top end cycle shines a light on your either your financial strength or your perception of debt and in no way reflects your ability or lack of.

That's why I love cycling, its a great leveller as soon as the pedals start turning.

Then again there are always some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels.....

But there are some contradictions there aren't there?
Because most of the people who buy bikes of a spec / expense that far outweighs their needs in terms of riding ARE indulging in a sort of materialism / conspicuous consumption. So if they are regarded as such by more frugal / understated riders then that's to be expected and to a certain extent justified.
It doesn't mean don't do it, but you have to accept that - as a fat bloke huffing and puffing at 15mph on a Pinarello Dogma - you will be seen by many as a bit of charlie with your flash gear and no idea? And it's your job to bear that, presumably smug in the knowledge that you can afford it?

I agree. You can hardly say expensive bikes are a way to "shine a light on... ...your financial strength" but expect that no other conclusions should be drawn. It would be unfair to invite people to envy you for your expensive bike but then consider them "some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels".
The bike is a legitimate statement or it's not. It can't be conditional on the conclusion drawn.

I draw particularly unflattering conclusions about those who buy fake Pinarello Dogmas! It shows neither financial strength, not honesty, nor good judgement, IMO.

MisterMuncher

I dunno. Fake Dogma+ good legs is a much better situation to be in than real Dogma and no legs.

slowmart

Ai_1 wrote:

KnightOfTheLongTights wrote:

Slowmart wrote:

None whatsoever. The acquisition of a top end cycle shines a light on your either your financial strength or your perception of debt and in no way reflects your ability or lack of.

That's why I love cycling, its a great leveller as soon as the pedals start turning.

Then again there are always some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels.....

But there are some contradictions there aren't there?
Because most of the people who buy bikes of a spec / expense that far outweighs their needs in terms of riding ARE indulging in a sort of materialism / conspicuous consumption. So if they are regarded as such by more frugal / understated riders then that's to be expected and to a certain extent justified.
It doesn't mean don't do it, but you have to accept that - as a fat bloke huffing and puffing at 15mph on a Pinarello Dogma - you will be seen by many as a bit of charlie with your flash gear and no idea? And it's your job to bear that, presumably smug in the knowledge that you can afford it?

I agree. You can hardly say expensive bikes are a way to "shine a light on... ...your financial strength" but expect that no other conclusions should be drawn. It would be unfair to invite people to envy you for your expensive bike but then consider them "some muppets who crystallise judgements on narrow views of materialistic chattels".
The bike is a legitimate statement or it's not. It can't be conditional on the conclusion drawn.

I draw particularly unflattering conclusions about those who buy fake Pinarello Dogmas! It shows neither financial strength, not honesty, nor good judgement, IMO.

Gents, it was the acquisition of a top end bike either by cash or finance..... as to personal drivers to make the acquisition, well, we could be here a while!

pinno

It's all relative and although relativism is flawed...

A good quality kitchen can cost £3500.
An Aga cooker can cost 4 grand and upwards.
A half decent family car can cost 12k.
A holiday in the Maldives could cost you 4k and upwards.
A two week cruise, 2 to 3k per person.

A Campagnolo Record 11 groupset will set you back ONLY £1400 and the only thing above that will last as long is the Aga which doesn't look nearly so good or make you smile as much.

Who cares anyway? If some huffing and puffing fat bloke buys a Pinarello Dogma with a set of 2 grand hoops and goes 10 mph, isn't that a lot better then aspiring to buy a Range Rover Vogue?

I mean, how fast does a cyclist have to go before you call him/her a cyclist?!

Giraffoto

pinarello001 wrote:

. . .
Who cares anyway? If some huffing and puffing fat bloke buys a Pinarello Dogma with a set of 2 grand hoops and goes 10 mph, isn't that a lot better then aspiring to buy a Range Rover Vogue?

I mean, how fast does a cyclist have to go before you call him/her a cyclist?!

The answer, my friend, is huffing and puffing in the headwind,
The answer is huffing and puffing in the headwind

ai_1

MisterMuncher wrote:

I dunno. Fake Dogma+ good legs is a much better situation to be in than real Dogma and no legs.

Better a "real" budget bike than a fake prestige model - was my point.

pinno

Giraffoto wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

. . .
Who cares anyway? If some huffing and puffing fat bloke buys a Pinarello Dogma with a set of 2 grand hoops and goes 10 mph, isn't that a lot better then aspiring to buy a Range Rover Vogue?

I mean, how fast does a cyclist have to go before you call him/her a cyclist?!

The answer, my friend, is huffing and puffing in the headwind,
The answer is huffing and puffing in the headwind

Very good.

I bet you wear a Paisley pattern bandanna on your head when your out cycling.

turbotommy

Giraffoto wrote:

The answer, my friend, is huffing and puffing in the headwind,
The answer is huffing and puffing in the headwind

Haha, awesome