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saddles, romin evo or prologo

silver2789silver2789 Posts: 36
edited February 2015 in Road buying advice
ideally looking for a saddle with a relief channel, ive tried the vs range of fizik and can't say I'm a fan. the romin evo from specialized gets good reviews but I quite like the look of the prologos such as the nago evo plus. any body had both or gone from one to the other?

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  • imposter2.0imposter2.0 Posts: 11,767
    'what saddle?' topics are generally impossible to answer - because nobody has the same ar5e as you and what suits one person may not suit another.

    Having said that, someone will come along in a minute and recommend one or the other, based on their own experience - but it's unlikely to be relevant to you.
  • passoutpassout Posts: 4,425
    As above really, although I do think the relief channel is a sound idea for most riders. Look at the WTB range too eg the Silverado. I only use Selle SMPs on my road bikes now - best I've found but again its a personal thing.
    'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.
  • I've think it would be between the romin evo from specialized or the prologo naga evo plus or nago evo pas.
    all have the channels, not sure how much difference is between the prologo's as they look almost identical. I've tried the romin evo and thought it wasn't too bad
  • northpolenorthpole Posts: 1,499
    Can't comment on the prologo. I've had Spesh Toupe, Romin and Romin Evo and definitely prefer the Evo out of those three. I have also tried a couple of Fizik - still have an Alliante on my commuter - without success. After one or two decent length weekend rides, it's always an 'interesting' experience sitting on the Fizik on a Monday morning (no central cut out!). It does sometimes make me wonder if that discomfort is because of the Fizik or because the Romin Evo hasn't been kind to me! Like an earlier poster, I have an SMP (I've got a Dynamic) but mine is still sitting in its box - reminded me to get it out and try it! It may be one for the OP to try as an alternative.

    Peter
  • I bit the bullet and bought a Selle Italia Superflow SLR Titanium, which was expensive (90£ on Wiggle your best deal) but it really has made a difference. The relief channel/cut-out is gargantuan in size, rendering it impossible to sit with too much pressure. It has improved my cycling position and greatly reduced pressure and numbness. Highly recommended :lol:
  • The Romin Evo gets a thumbs up from me. Been riding mine for 18 months or so and can't fault it. Always comfortable, never had any soreness, numbness etc over long distances, including some 100+ rides in Spanish mountains. Great saddle all round, and extra points for surviving a nasty crash without bending or ripping! That was a real touch when it cost me so much.

    If there's anywhere near you that has demo models then I'd recommend you try them if possible! Individual choice is such a big part of buying a saddle and you can only find out your preference through trial and error. If you're near/south of London then Sigma Sport stock both Specialized and Prologo I believe. They also have a wide range of demos so could be worth a call. They were incredibly helpful in finding me the right perch.

    Good luck
  • Did not work for me ,the search continues.
  • Coach HCoach H Posts: 1,092
    Saddles are an individual purchase, but I have had some of the saddles mentioned. The main saddle issue I have is Penile numbness, other than that most saddles I have tried over the years have been fairly comfortable. My comments on the relative merits of the below saddles MAY NOT be the experience of others.

    Spesh Romin - Saddle of choice for about 4 years. Great in general but sometimes felt a little harsh. Sitting area was a great shape for me but the wide nose bruised my inner thighs and ultimately led me to look for something different (this was slightly alleviated by chamois cream but could be painful on longer rides, who would believe a couple of mm would make so much difference). Very dependent on angle.

    Spesh Romin Evo - Padding more plush than Romin and nose was much better shape. Rear falls away far more than a Romin and this was the main issue for me as I couldn't get on with this in either the 143 (my Romin width) which was too narrow or in the 155 which aggravated a nerve that has now plagued me for months. Even more dependent on angle. One saddle suffered the notorious 'Spesh Creak'TM

    If Specialised did the Romin with the nose width of a Romin Evo I would be riding it

    Selle Italia SLR Superflow - Oh how I wanted to get on with this. Great overall shape, for me. Hard at first but absolutely no numbness, not even a hint, in fact so good in this aspect you forget there is even a chance of numbness. However for me the hole was just slightly too wide and part of my sit bones was right on the edge of the hole and caused quite bad sores due to contact with the edge of the shell (reaching through the hole from the underside pinpointed the exact spot). Overall build and quality was excellent. Persevered but ultimately just slightly wrong in this one aspect. If they ever produce a wide model with a Superflow shape but the middle to rear hole profile from the newer SLR Flow, I will be all over it.

    Prologo Nago Evo PAS - Been considering for a while (but tragically didn't like the red flashes). Some sketchy build quality (had to buy 5 to get 2 that didn't have build faults) which is unusual for Velo produced saddles, apart from 'Spesh Creak'TM and other Prologo saddles are normally excellent in this regard IME. I think it must be difficult to shape the cover into the channel as this is where all my faults were (splits in the cover), or they are built on Velo's Apprenticeship line. A little hard at first, as most Prologo saddles are reputed to be, but bedding in nicely. No numbness, apart from one Turbo session, so far. Been used since Sept on Winter bike, and best bike on Turbo only, and so far has been the best overall saddle I have tried over the years. Looking like a keeper.

    To be fair, I would be quite happy to recommend any of these saddles. Even though the Prologo Nago Evo has proved to be the best for me, that bears no relevance to whether it will be the best for you. Unless you are one of those people who can sit on anything (I hate you by the way :wink: ) saddles are the most frustrating part of the whole cycling experience.
    Coach H. (Dont ask me for training advice - 'It's not about the bike')
  • Zak3737Zak3737 Posts: 368
    I went to the trouble of getting 'fitted' for a Spesh Romin Evo, £85, 155mm, but despite that, found that I just couldnt get comfortable at all, and sold it.

    Jumped on a Charge Spoon for £25, and havent looked back.

    Just shows that cost is no relevance to comfort !
    Good luck !
  • Coach HCoach H Posts: 1,092
    The silver lining in all this is that at lease choice is available. [Violins out] I remember when you had Brooks, Turbo or Rolls as pretty much the only options you had.
    Coach H. (Dont ask me for training advice - 'It's not about the bike')
  • Coach H wrote:
    Saddles are an individual purchase, but I have had some of the saddles mentioned. The main saddle issue I have is Penile numbness, other than that most saddles I have tried over the years have been fairly comfortable. My comments on the relative merits of the below saddles MAY NOT be the experience of others.

    Spesh Romin - Saddle of choice for about 4 years. Great in general but sometimes felt a little harsh. Sitting area was a great shape for me but the wide nose bruised my inner thighs and ultimately led me to look for something different (this was slightly alleviated by chamois cream but could be painful on longer rides, who would believe a couple of mm would make so much difference). Very dependent on angle.

    Spesh Romin Evo - Padding more plush than Romin and nose was much better shape. Rear falls away far more than a Romin and this was the main issue for me as I couldn't get on with this in either the 143 (my Romin width) which was too narrow or in the 155 which aggravated a nerve that has now plagued me for months. Even more dependent on angle. One saddle suffered the notorious 'Spesh Creak'TM

    If Specialised did the Romin with the nose width of a Romin Evo I would be riding it

    Selle Italia SLR Superflow - Oh how I wanted to get on with this. Great overall shape, for me. Hard at first but absolutely no numbness, not even a hint, in fact so good in this aspect you forget there is even a chance of numbness. However for me the hole was just slightly too wide and part of my sit bones was right on the edge of the hole and caused quite bad sores due to contact with the edge of the shell (reaching through the hole from the underside pinpointed the exact spot). Overall build and quality was excellent. Persevered but ultimately just slightly wrong in this one aspect. If they ever produce a wide model with a Superflow shape but the middle to rear hole profile from the newer SLR Flow, I will be all over it.

    Prologo Nago Evo PAS - Been considering for a while (but tragically didn't like the red flashes). Some sketchy build quality (had to buy 5 to get 2 that didn't have build faults) which is unusual for Velo produced saddles, apart from 'Spesh Creak'TM and other Prologo saddles are normally excellent in this regard IME. I think it must be difficult to shape the cover into the channel as this is where all my faults were (splits in the cover), or they are built on Velo's Apprenticeship line. A little hard at first, as most Prologo saddles are reputed to be, but bedding in nicely. No numbness, apart from one Turbo session, so far. Been used since Sept on Winter bike, and best bike on Turbo only, and so far has been the best overall saddle I have tried over the years. Looking like a keeper.

    To be fair, I would be quite happy to recommend any of these saddles. Even though the Prologo Nago Evo has proved to be the best for me, that bears no relevance to whether it will be the best for you. Unless you are one of those people who can sit on anything (I hate you by the way :wink: ) saddles are the most frustrating part of the whole cycling experience.



    thanks for the advice I've had the romin evo but its hit an miss with comfort, sometimes its great and others not so much. my new bike came with a kappa evo from prologo and just can't get on with it. might try the nago evo pas next and see how I go. does anyone know if there is much difference between the pas and the plus ranges
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