Maxxis Tubeless Ready Issues

peter413

Has anyone else had issues with the Maxis Tubeless Ready tyres? I've tried the Crossmark and Ikon on WTB tubeless rims and neither will seat with just a floor pump, they both needed the ghetto compressor method. Seems a bit pointless that tubeless ready tyres and rims won't inflate easily. Never had an issue with Stan's and Specialised 2Bliss or Maxis LUST before. Unfortunately the Stan's and WTB's are different wheel sizes so can't compare the tyres on each rim. Maybe it's just the WTB's tubeless system isn't very good with Maxxis.

No I'm not using soapy water or anything like that but my point is a setup like this shouldn't need it. Never needed it with the 2Bliss or LUST tyres.

njee20

My non tubeless ready Beavers went straight up with a track pump on my Light Bicycle rims. So no, personally I've not!

am7

I have never managed to seat a tubeless ready tyre, schwalbe or maxxis either on ust or non-ust rims using stan's strips and fluid and schwalbe easy fit fluid (the equivalent of soap) using my overpriced all aluminium/steel floor pump. No matter how much I try I always resort to using the compressor at the gas station which is a 1 min drive from my house. A single push of the compressor following a series of pops and all is well. I am buying the bontrager tlr flash charger as soon as I have some spare cash. I know tubeless ready tyres can in theory and practice (I saw the videos) be seated with a floor pump but personally I have never managed to do it so I would not worry about it. Good thing is if I do not let the fluid complete dry out and I remove the core to put new fluid in, the tyre inflates with just the floor pump. What I find strange though is I had no end of problems with some tubeless ready tyres but zero problems with tyres which were specifically not tubeless ready so I do not take everything as a gospel.

coulddobetter

A spot of soapy water can make all the difference.

peter413

coulddobetter wrote:

A spot of soapy water can make all the difference.

Completely missing the point. A tubeless ready tyre on a tubeless ready rim shouldn't need any extra help to inflate. I'd much rather use some form of compressor than soapy water, far less mess that way. I've even managed to seat Specialized 2Bliss tyres with only a mini pump and no extra help, valve core in and all.

I've actually been looking at the Bontrager pump too. It's pretty damn expensive though for what I've heard is a pretty basic feeling pump. I could buy a compressor for the same price as the pump but then the compressor wouldn't be portable.

njee20

Technique to blame if you really can't get anything to inflate IMO.

Caveman_Chris

IME, maxxis TR tyres go up straight away on my wtb i19 rims. If they're straight out the packaging, I find squashing the tyre closer to the rim where the valve is stops the air escaping immediately.

In contrast, I have an obsolete 'mare getting EXC 2.0 beavers to seat.

coulddobetter

peter413 wrote:

coulddobetter wrote:

A spot of soapy water can make all the difference.

Completely missing the point. A tubeless ready tyre on a tubeless ready rim shouldn't need any extra help to inflate. I'd much rather use some form of compressor than soapy water, far less mess that way. I've even managed to seat Specialized 2Bliss tyres with only a mini pump and no extra help, valve core in and all.

I've actually been looking at the Bontrager pump too. It's pretty damn expensive though for what I've heard is a pretty basic feeling pump. I could buy a compressor for the same price as the pump but then the compressor wouldn't be portable.

Really? Ok carry on struggling then .

poah

peter413 wrote:

coulddobetter wrote:

A spot of soapy water can make all the difference.

Completely missing the point. A tubeless ready tyre on a tubeless ready rim shouldn't need any extra help to inflate. I'd much rather use some form of compressor than soapy water, far less mess that way. I've even managed to seat Specialized 2Bliss tyres with only a mini pump and no extra help, valve core in and all.

I've actually been looking at the Bontrager pump too. It's pretty damn expensive though for what I've heard is a pretty basic feeling pump. I could buy a compressor for the same price as the pump but then the compressor wouldn't be portable.

use fairy liquid on the bead - my rims are mavic UST and some tyres go on easy others do not. I had to use a tube first with my conti baron

peter413

Well it does appear to be problem with these particular tyres on WTB rims. Just mounted a TR Shorty to my Mega on a Flow EX and that had no problems at all inflating.

Just to reiterate, I didn't have a problem getting the other tyres mounted. They just wouldn't inflate without using a ghetto compressor. With the compressor they went straight up.

bennett_346

I just used a co2 cartridge to give the tyres the initial bump of pressure and they hold now.

Dirtydog11

@Peter413

WTB TCS is specific to WTB

Have aread through the linked page, it explains why WTB tyres won't work with Stans rims and also explains why Maxxis are a loose fit on WTB rims.

"If you’ve ever tried to mount a TCS tire to a Stan’s rim (which WTB strictly warns against), you know that it does not work. And if you go the other way, and mount a normal tire to a TCS rim, you will probably have a hard time getting it to inflate, short of using a very large, powerful air compressor."

More here...

http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/01/14/why ... -get-here/

peter413

I've read through that page and what you've quoted. I'm not trying to mount a normal tyre or a TCS to a Stan's rim though. I was mounting a tubeless ready tyre to a WTB rim.

I also wouldn't call a 2 litre bottle at 60 psi a "very large, powerful compressor". And as Caveman_Chris pointed out further up the page he had no issues mounting a tubeless ready tyre to his WTB rim. The WTB TCS rims are meant to have a UST shaped bead and diameter according to WTB so should still be compatible with other tubeless tyres.

I can't find any mention of WTB warning against using their tyres on other rims. I did find that Stan's recommends not using them because they are so tight but that wasn't WTB. Pretty sure there are plenty of people out there using WTB tyres with Stan's rims so it does actually work.