pantani the accidental death of a cyclist

sigorman85
sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
edited January 2015 in Road general
Just watched this on net flix ..wow it opened my eyes up to how addictive cycling can be! Such a shame how things do turn out...but I guess it comes down to greed

Has anyone else seen this? And what did you think of it?
When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    the 5-6 years during which he did what he did have been the most exciting for a cycling enthusiast like myself... his style, panache and bravery had no equal before or after... in fact I don't remember any other moment being anywhere close to Aprica, Oropa or Deux Alpes in terms of intensity... and that even considering other sports
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  • sigorman85
    sigorman85 Posts: 2,536
    There was some good footage that showed his power
    When i die I just hope the wife doesn't sell my stuff for what I told her I paid for it other wise someone will be getting a mega deal!!!


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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    The problem in looking at old footage is that it loses intensity... I remember in those days the all nation (Italy) was in front of the TV... RAI was recording audience in the 10s of millions at the same level as the World cup Final... literally a nation stopped to watch Pantani gain the yellow jersey... it was incredible
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  • markyone
    markyone Posts: 1,126
    Yes I saw it and it was very good,i did not know he shattered his leg in an accident and still managed to come back after his injury.
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  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    markyone wrote:
    Yes I saw it and it was very good,i did not know he shattered his leg in an accident and still managed to come back after his injury.

    The accident at the Milano-Torino was very bad and he thought he would never come back... he did with a shorter leg and stronger... that basically was the tipping point from being a very gifted climber to becoming a cycling legend
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  • slowmart
    slowmart Posts: 4,516
    I thought it was an excellent film, I'm not a fan of road racing but it was captivating, illuminating and was a warts and all picture.

    There were lots of great bits and I loved the story where he was told not to win again by his team and then promptly did.
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  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    Saw it last week - ended up a little conflicted. I know the majority of the peloton were on PEDs but he seemed to take a disproportionate degree of blame and hatred (for want of a better word). I felt very much that he was ultimately a very honest man, would have been nice if the support structures worked for him.
  • ugo.santalucia
    ugo.santalucia Posts: 28,321
    johngti wrote:
    Saw it last week - ended up a little conflicted. I know the majority of the peloton were on PEDs but he seemed to take a disproportionate degree of blame and hatred (for want of a better word). I felt very much that he was ultimately a very honest man, would have been nice if the support structures worked for him.

    He would have been fine with less love from strangers and a more love at home... he basically needed a family
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  • bobmcstuff
    bobmcstuff Posts: 11,440
    Really enjoyed it, good film.
  • johngti
    johngti Posts: 2,508
    ugo.santalucia wrote:
    johngti wrote:
    Saw it last week - ended up a little conflicted. I know the majority of the peloton were on PEDs but he seemed to take a disproportionate degree of blame and hatred (for want of a better word). I felt very much that he was ultimately a very honest man, would have been nice if the support structures worked for him.

    He would have been fine with less love from strangers and a more love at home... he basically needed a family

    I got the impression that he effectively withdrew himself from that support, basically because he was a decent bloke who found the guilt extremely hard to cope with. There was an incident described where, post bust, he went for a training ride and copped a load of abuse from a passing car. Cocaine was an easy escape for him in that sense maybe. The party scene can make you feel like you have friends. Great film and an awesome rider even allowing for artificial enhancement
  • alex222
    alex222 Posts: 598
    I haven't seen the film but if it has interested you in Pantani I would highly recommend Matt Rendell's book The Death of Marco Pantani. My first and still favourite cycling book.
  • jordan_217
    jordan_217 Posts: 2,580
    Alex222 wrote:
    I haven't seen the film but if it has interested you in Pantani I would highly recommend Matt Rendell's book The Death of Marco Pantani. My first and still favourite cycling book.

    +1. Very well researched and written.
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