Choices: Alu tub front wheel for mud

FransJacques

My current mud set up is Limus clinchers on RS80s. So far they've been great, brake well, and I've had some good performance from them. In a recent race however the front was clogging (i.e. not clearing itself) in the glommy mud and I was sliding out. As the track got slipperier I stopped briefly and let some air out of the front but the feel became sketchy and wobbly. Maybe a bit more grip but much less steering precision.

As I have a brand new Dugast Rhino tub that's been stretching since last Feb it's time to deploy it - I'm just gonna do the front for now and worry about the rear later.

Choices are a Ksyrium tub wheel http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mavi ... -prod87215 (comes with a tub I can put on my track bike)

Or a custom build with a rim like Superstar's http://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/e ... ar-rim.htm or slightly wider: http://www.superstarcomponents.com/en/p ... -rim-t.htm Or Mavic reflex.

I would consider most pre-builts too: Easton, Cole, Fulcrum etc. so long as all are alu.

Weight is important to me, I'd like to end up around 620 grams (400gr rim, 80gr hub, 20 x 8gr spokes/nips) and not a 32 x straight gauge 14 set up on Ultegra 6600. Those are £30 used. Don't want carbon so I don't have to worry about changing pads, with infants I have enuf stuff to do.

Prefer a wider rim (not essential) just from the gluing point of view. I'll be doing the gluing and I've not done a tub since 1992. Max price is about £250 or so.

I'll open to the collective wisdom on the list please, many thanks in advance.

ugo.santalucia

Velocity Major Tom?

bendertherobot

Yeah, you get great ground control with them.

tgotb

Nothing specific, but definitely agree with going wide, especially for mud. My 23mm carbon rims seem to provide a far nicer platform for a sub-20psi tyre than my 20?mm Mavic Reflexes (clearly the carbon-ness is immaterial in this regard...)

Only issue might be hassle of brake adjustment when swapping between different wheels (not an issue for me on discs). Depends on your brake setup, I guess...

FransJacques

Thanks, Major Thom's look good. I just read a couple comments about it being easier to glue a 33c tub to a 23c rim than a 19c rim. That's right up my street.

If I go radial I can even lace them up myself.

If I'm 82kgs but tend to be easy on equipment would people go 20 or 24 spokes? Cheers

ugo.santalucia

FransJacques wrote:

Thanks, Major Thom's look good. I just read a couple comments about it being easier to glue a 33c tub to a 23c rim than a 19c rim. That's right up my street.

If I go radial I can even lace them up myself.

If I'm 82kgs but tend to be easy on equipment would people go 20 or 24 spokes? Cheers

I might be wrong, but I think BLB only have them as 24 or 28, so the choice is limited. You can use DT revs/Sapim Laser or Sapim D-Light, all excellent spokes for front wheels and lighter than your 8 gr per spoke. If you get a tiny cigar type hub, you need to lace it radial, if you get a hub with a bigger flange you've got the choice of radial or 2 cross.
Superstar sell "Icon hubs", basically rebadged Novatec 291 with allegedly SKF bearings inside... maybe worth a punt?

veronese68

bendertherobot wrote:

Yeah, you get great ground control with them.

FransJacques

I thought he was referring to one of the original Spesh MTB tyres