Virtual Trainer free alternative?

rowlers

Just had a go with the Cycleops Virtual Trainer software.

Paired my Xperia Z2 with my Speed/cadence sensor and he software "knows" the powercurve on the Fluid2 trainer that I use.
BUT, it cost $5.99 a month to use it after the free trial.
Does any one know of a free Android app that I can use to get the power from the Fluid2 via Ant+ Speed/cadence and HRM?
I simply haven't money to spare for $5.99 a month and I don't I'd use it enough to justify the cost any way!
Cheers

jgsi

The IpBike app supports virtual power.

davidof

rowlers wrote:

Just had a go with the Cycleops Virtual Trainer software.

Paired my Xperia Z2 with my Speed/cadence sensor and he software "knows" the powercurve on the Fluid2 trainer that I use.
BUT, it cost $5.99 a month to use it after the free trial.
Does any one know of a free Android app that I can use to get the power from the Fluid2 via Ant+ Speed/cadence and HRM?
I simply haven't money to spare for $5.99 a month and I don't I'd use it enough to justify the cost any way!
Cheers

If you have a real computer WattzAp and Golden Cheetah are options.

rowlers

JGSI wrote:

The IpBike app supports virtual power.

Thanks just looking a this now...
I've also just found Turbo Power Cycling too!

JGSI wrote:

The IpBike app supports virtual power.

I do have a real computer but its under the tele and I train the the Garage. Other option is my Chromebook, but very few apps like this exits for chromebooks atm!

Thanks

tim_wand

I use my Cyclops fluid 2 on Trainer Road, but have never been happy with the Virtual Power figure on either the Beta power curve or the other one available.

I wrongly believed you needed a Cyclops power tap to run the Cyclops virtual training, I didn't realise there was a virtual power option , I take it being a Cyclops trainer and Cyclops program that their power map is probably a bit closer on virtual power than those I ve experienced on Trainer road.

I know Nap D has switched between both, but to be honest I thought he used a power tap and actual power, has anyone compared both with the Cyclops Fluid 2 and which one would you put the most trust in?

If theres a free trial period on the Cyclops training then I ll give it a go as I m currently using Trainer Road when I cant get out.

napoleond

There's a free trial period with the virtual training but yeah I use a powertap. However, I have a Cycleops jet fluid pro trainer, I'll try and have a do with virtual power to see how it compares if I get chance.

Calpol

tim wand wrote:

I use my Cyclops fluid 2 on Trainer Road, but have never been happy with the Virtual Power figure on either the Beta power curve or the other one available.

I wrongly believed you needed a Cyclops power tap to run the Cyclops virtual training, I didn't realise there was a virtual power option , I take it being a Cyclops trainer and Cyclops program that their power map is probably a bit closer on virtual power than those I ve experienced on Trainer road.

I know Nap D has switched between both, but to be honest I thought he used a power tap and actual power, has anyone compared both with the Cyclops Fluid 2 and which one would you put the most trust in?

If theres a free trial period on the Cyclops training then I ll give it a go as I m currently using Trainer Road when I cant get out.

There is a fair amount of variation in the setup on these things. Using TrainerRoad I did the FTP test and blasted out 314W. A week later after the bike had been out the turbo and then repositions and I was flat out trying to hold 270W! An extra turn of the yellow handle was enough to produce a significant increase in load. Needless to say I had to make a manual adjustment to my FTP which is now down at an all together more sensible 250W. I am also on a Fluid 2

rowlers

It does state (on one of the websites I've looked at) that the setup needs to identical each time otherwise the power figures will vary. There is a comparison somewhere to and the virtual is on a par with the real power...
EDIT:
all about virutal power:
http://www.trainerroad.com/virtual-power

tim_wand

Yer I m aware of getting continuity of set up, Always make sure resistance and tyre pressure is the same and that I ve spinned up for at least 5 minutes to make sure the viscosity of the fluid in the trainer is okay.

Nap D if you could do a comparison between the Power Tap and the Fluid 2 that would be a winner, Is there not a function on TR were you can send them your power map and they can recalibrate the curves between actual and virtual power.

I m going to give the Cyclops free trial a go , always nice to have a bit of variety.

pippi_langsamer-2

Kurt Kinetic InRide power module has a run-down exercise used prior to any workout so it calculates how much resistance the roller is exerting on the tyre, and adjusts the algorithm to-suit. Quite a nifty feature, and apparently produces consistent power figures as a result, and means you don't have to be so exact with the roller pressure.

rowlers

Turbo power Cycling
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... opowerfree
is very simple but it works very well, its good enough to warrant the purchase of the "full" version.