Who doesn't wear fluro?
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homers double wrote:There was a regular commuter on my way home with a high viz band around him, you know the one which crosses over the chest, couldn't see it for shizzle
Interesting. Mine looks alight if I catch it in the right light as it hangs up in my garage. Different makes I guess.0 -
homers double wrote:Last night I rode 21km home in the dark wearing black gore windstopper tights and jacket and a black helmet. My shoes and gloves are also black.
I didn't get one beep or close shave all the way home because I was well lit.
You do not need high viz/flourescent clothing in the dark, you need decent lights.
But A) as has already been discussed, black isn't as visible as colour (funny that), and
you do look like you don't give a toss about road safety. And people do notice - as I recall, it was even seized upon by the tabloids when that woman knocked Wiggins off. 0 -
Ai_1 wrote:
Idiotic commenttype:epyt wrote:....If one of your first 3 thoughts whilst getting ready to go out on the bike is visibility you should find a new hobby (or take the chat to the commuting forum).
Ah yes, but better a stylish idiot than a neon victim?Life is unfair, kill yourself or get over it.0 -
˄˄˄ Haha Genius statement!?! ˄˄˄0
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Simon Masterson wrote:homers double wrote:Last night I rode 21km home in the dark wearing black gore windstopper tights and jacket and a black helmet. My shoes and gloves are also black.
I didn't get one beep or close shave all the way home because I was well lit.
You do not need high viz/flourescent clothing in the dark, you need decent lights.
But A) as has already been discussed, black isn't as visible as colour (funny that), and you do look like you don't give a toss about road safety. And people do notice - as I recall, it was even seized upon by the tabloids when that woman knocked Wiggins off.
But surely the use of bright, visible lights always overrules anything that you can wear?
If you don't see a bright flashing light then what chance have you got for seeing a fluorescent jacket??0 -
Simon Masterson wrote:Interesting use of 'genius'...
Touché. There do seem to be some bizarre, cavalier attitudes amongst some cyclists. Differences of opinion make the world interesting though don't they.
Ride safe out there, however stylish you are
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iron-clover wrote:Simon Masterson wrote:homers double wrote:Last night I rode 21km home in the dark wearing black gore windstopper tights and jacket and a black helmet. My shoes and gloves are also black.
I didn't get one beep or close shave all the way home because I was well lit.
You do not need high viz/flourescent clothing in the dark, you need decent lights.
But A) as has already been discussed, black isn't as visible as colour (funny that), and you do look like you don't give a toss about road safety. And people do notice - as I recall, it was even seized upon by the tabloids when that woman knocked Wiggins off.
But surely the use of bright, visible lights always overrules anything that you can wear?
If you don't see a bright flashing light then what chance have you got for seeing a fluorescent jacket??
Some people argue that being a fluroman or wearing bright clothing is more useful than lights in low lighting conditions (I've only seen anecdotal evidence to this, probably because most peoples lights are actually sh!t).
In total darkness then lights are the way to go. Big feck off powerfull ones.0 -
You're involved in cycling because you think it's stylish?type:epyt wrote:
Can I suggest you ask your non-cycling friends how they think you look in your cycling gear.
Why the constant implications that this is an either fluorescent or lights issue? I have yet to read a comment suggesting that you ditch your lights because you're wearing hi-viz clothing but I've read plenty posts from apparently anti-fluorescent posters attempting to put words in peoples mouths and implying that it's a choice between the two and implying you shouldn't use fluorescent clothing because lights are better.iron-clover wrote:Simon Masterson wrote:homers double wrote:Last night I rode 21km home in the dark wearing black gore windstopper tights and jacket and a black helmet. My shoes and gloves are also black.
I didn't get one beep or close shave all the way home because I was well lit.
You do not need high viz/flourescent clothing in the dark, you need decent lights.
But A) as has already been discussed, black isn't as visible as colour (funny that), and you do look like you don't give a toss about road safety. And people do notice - as I recall, it was even seized upon by the tabloids when that woman knocked Wiggins off.
But surely the use of bright, visible lights always overrules anything that you can wear?
If you don't see a bright flashing light then what chance have you got for seeing a fluorescent jacket??
Explain please?0 -
Have to admit that I started reading this thread last week, but haven't been back to it until today, so I've missed a few of the pages, but... reading this made me decide I'd test it out, so I asked a friend who drives to the same town as me to go to work to let me know what is most visible when she passed me (I have lights, reflectors on the bike, reflective strips/patches on clothing/shoes and wear bright and/or fluorescent clothes). She said this morning the first thing she saw was definitely the red flashing light, she had to get closer before she saw anything else, and then it was the reflectives - she didn't see anything else until she was right behind me. That was at about 7:45am this morning, and it was cloudy, but just starting to come light.
I'm going to ask someone else to do the same but at night when its really dark. See if the ambient light (or lack of it) and a different set of eyes give the same result."I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated"0 -
I wear what I want to wear, not what some commuting nerd dressed like a ball of illuminous snot wants me to wear.
I use what I consider to be suitable lights, as both a driver and a cyclist I think I'm qualified to comment on what is acceptable.
Again as a driver I can also say that I do not think a bright yellow jacket either in the dusk or dead of night helps the rider to be seen however their lights (providing they are decent) do.
People who have what appears to be a solitary candle in a glass tube on their handlebars are not well lit and no amount of yellow in the dark and drizzle of a winters night on a busy A road is going to help tham.
Wear what you want, be it green, yellow, pink or black but FFS just use decent lights.Advocate of disc brakes.0 -
Ai_1 wrote:
You're involved in cycling because you think it's stylish?type:epyt wrote:
Can I suggest you ask your non-cycling friends how they think you look in your cycling gear.
Ha so true, and I'm guilty of being a bit or a fashion victim myself. Nobody outside of cycling cares, if you're wearing rapha or altura, you look equally as ridiculous to a non cyclist.
Bit like golf really.0 -
Rubbish, I looked so sexy in my bib longs with a tum sticking out between the straps yester...
Oh wait...Advocate of disc brakes.0 -
on the occasions i have bought fluoro i have found it looks mucky or gts dirty easier so that sthe reason i wont buy a majority fluoro jacket/jersey. i have a lomng sleeve jersey with fluoro stripes down the arms but since i was wearing that the day i got knocked off my bike im not sure it counted for much. i'm pretty sure f the driver isnt going to see 4 lights on the back or 4 on the front them i am stuffed anyway.
happy to have reflectives on a jacket/jersey/gloves/rucksack but hi viz isnt for me really and its not as slimming as darker colours!Cube Cross 2016
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Ai_1 wrote:Why the constant implications that this is an either fluorescent or lights issue? I have yet to read a comment suggesting that you ditch your lights because you're wearing hi-viz clothing but I've read plenty posts from apparently anti-fluorescent posters attempting to put words in peoples mouths and implying that it's a choice between the two and implying you shouldn't use fluorescent clothing because lights are better.
Explain please?
This exactly. Your front door isn't going to stop a capable burglar from getting into your house, but that doesn't mean that you might as well leave it unlocked. The simple facts are above - black doesn't reflect very well (again, funny that), colour is usually a bit better, and there are plenty that will look upon you as yet another cyclist that's not prepared to make concessions to road safety, even if you do have decent lights on. Which of course you should.
From my own experience, particularly when cycling in the dark with others (but driving also), anything that makes your silhouette more distinct makes a huge difference - eg. reflective detail/bands on your ankles or shoe heels, helmet, panniers if you're carrying, etc. As Obi Wan said, your eyes can deceive you.0 -
yehbutifyaav someflorogear the nextblokemight seeya beforeheknocksyaoff yerbike/killsya.MacLeod113 wrote:on the occasions i have bought fluoro i have found it looks mucky or gts dirty easier so that sthe reason i wont buy a majority fluoro jacket/jersey. i have a lomng sleeve jersey with fluoro stripes down the arms but since i was wearing that the day i got knocked off my bike im not sure it counted for much. i'm pretty sure f the driver isnt going to see 4 lights on the back or 4 on the front them i am stuffed anyway.
happy to have reflectives on a jacket/jersey/gloves/rucksack but hi viz isnt for me really and its not as slimming as darker colours!0
