TRP Hy/Rd and Campagnolo?

jonny_trousers

Purely speculative at this point, but I'm considering building a do-it-all bike early next year, which I'll want to run discs on. I could buy a much nicer frameset if I make use of the parts on my current bike rather than buying everything new. That gives me a Campagnolo Chorus groupset. Obviously Campagnolo haven't joined the road-disc party yet and so the clearest option would be TRP's Hy/Rd system. That said, I do recall reading a few reviews when it first came out suggesting you had to pull the levers pretty damn hard to get anywhere near decent grab. Anyone know if this is actually the case, or better still, anyone have experience of this set-up?

Thanks in advance!

meanredspider

Is there something strange about Campag brake levers? Would they work badly with a different brand of rim calipers? The HyRds (2nd gen - the first gen had a fault) work very well with Ultegra levers. Quite a long throw (which I like)

rafletcher

meanredspider wrote:

Is there something strange about Campag brake levers? Would they work badly with a different brand of rim calipers? The HyRds (2nd gen - the first gen had a fault) work very well with Ultegra levers. Quite a long throw (which I like)

What was the fault? I was quite happy running them (1st gen) with Ultegra levers with no issues. And you can shorten the throw by pulling the cable through the actuator arm of course.

And to the OP - yes, they'll work with other drop levers - my Genesis has the 2nd gen callipers and 105 levers.

ugo.santalucia

I am on the same boat so I will follow yours with interest. Those who use them say it's absolutely fine, others say the lever throw is not ideal... but TRP on their website say they are compatible with ALL road levers on the market

jonny_trousers

ugo.santalucia wrote:

I am on the same boat so I will follow yours with interest. Those who use them say it's absolutely fine, others say the lever throw is not ideal... but TRP on their website say they are compatible with ALL road levers on the market

Well if all goes to plan I'll be asking you to build me some nice wheels. Give me a great deal and I'll be your guinea pig.

bendertherobot

I can't see that there would be any issues. Once the cable is tight then the pull should be the same on all levers. The actual movement on the main unit is very small. There is lever travel but you can't hit the bar with the levers. I run SRAM but I can't see Campag being any different.

They really are excellent. Just so easy to deal with.

meanredspider

rafletcher wrote:

meanredspider wrote:

Is there something strange about Campag brake levers? Would they work badly with a different brand of rim calipers? The HyRds (2nd gen - the first gen had a fault) work very well with Ultegra levers. Quite a long throw (which I like)

What was the fault? I was quite happy running them (1st gen) with Ultegra levers with no issues. And you can shorten the throw by pulling the cable through the actuator arm of course.

The issue was that they didn't self-compensate for pad wear (I ran out of lever descending Alpe D'Huez which tends to grab the attention). This was clearly a known issue to TRP - all I had to do was send a pic of the caliper. And, no, you ABSOLUTELY can't shorten the throw by doing that. The brakes are set up using a stop which ensures that the lever returns far enough to compensate for pad wear. If you shorten this throw, the brakes won't compensate which defeats half the reason for having them.

rafletcher

I was meaning when initially setting them up, not as in "in service" adjustment

meanredspider

rafletcher wrote:

I was meaning when initially setting them up, not as in "in service" adjustment

Yup - but that still determines the lever travel - basically you set the cable up tight before releasing the pin. The lever throw is still quite long and I know some people don't like that. I do.

janwal

I have done about 300 miles on my new Trek Domane disc ,running HY/RD's.They are really very good brakes.Lots of feel,no rubbing and haven't noticed any lever travel problems,Infact I have smallish hands and have the Ultegra levers adjusting to reduce the reach and there is still plenty of lever travel left for braking and are no where near being back to the bars when braking.

cycleclinic

Campagnolo brake levers and TRP brakes work just fine. done it a few times now. There is lever to pull but the braking is quite progressive they way disc brakes should be. The wheel locks up before the lever hits the bars.

Alot of the the issues is down to using spiral wound outers. Try Jagwire road pro XL cable casings which are compressionless casings with linear strands. Alot of the issues with disc brakes are down to poor setup or the sandard cable casing. The front brake needs a longer casing than a rim brake does and for the rear is a full length outer is required the oppertunity for sponginess is quite significant.

cal_stewart

Anyone used the Hope V Twin with there brakes and Campagnolo?

jonny_trousers

For anyone interested, I was sent the below as a PM by a very kind chap:

I had TRP Hy/Rd on my bike with Campag levers , then I tried TPR Spyre SLC and the differance was great, the Hy/Rd was always a bit soft feel at the levers but with the Spyre that had gone, the set up is so easy and a lot lighter
Set up screw the cable ajuster half way in / out , the two mounting bolts loose, pull the arm hard against the disk and tighten the cable and the bolts, the wheel will now be locked so release the cable screw till the wheel spins free and thats it