Carbon/mudguards/hydrodiscs/winter/not heavy??

I am the god of hell fire

Im struggling to get the above dilemma sorted

What I want is a carbon frame, not a steel one, with a hydraulic brake system able to take full mudguards which wont fall apart after several winters use

The only thing I can find is the new MY Spesh Roubaix and whilst Im comfortable Specialized will honour any warranty issues (on the frame not grouset*) after actually using it through foul weather I cant get an answer form my local retailer on whether 'proper' mudguards will fit - looking at it the frame and fork lack appropriate mount points, he says the Specialized "plug and play" system will work but cant show me one and my concern is it will be a bit "crudracer" and flimsy

Anything else out there?
Im not interested in Kaffenbachs, Im happy to spend a bit more for a lighter bike which will get used year round on club runs as potentially an only bike with some summer wheels too






* I accept a steady trickle of BBs, wheel bearing services etc etc

arthur_scrimshaw

http://whyte.bike/gb/models/commuterroa ... /cornwall/

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arlowood

Have a look at the Trek Domane Disc range. Start at around £1.5 Kand go up to around £4K

Mid range Domane 4.5 Disc is £2.5K with a mix of Ultegra and 105. Carbon frame and mudguard capability using Trek's own "vanishing" mudguard mounts

http://www.trekbikes.com/uk/en/bikes/ro ... c_compact/

rafletcher

No 'guard eyes on the back of the Whyte that I can see there, though the front fork appears to have some half way up a la Genesis Equilibrium disc.

What the OP needs is a carbon frame that will take mudguards. After that any groupset with full hydraulics can be fitted - SRAM or Shimano.

For example

http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Tifosi-CK2-Carb ... tAodq3wAVQ

arthur_scrimshaw

rafletcher wrote:

No 'guard eyes on the back of the Whyte that I can see there, though the front fork appears to have some half way up a la Genesis Equilibrium disc.

What the OP needs is a carbon frame that will take mudguards. After that any groupset with full hydraulics can be fitted - SRAM or Shimano.

For example

http://www.tredz.co.uk/.Tifosi-CK2-Carb ... tAodq3wAVQ

If you zoom the image you will see there are rear mounts for guards.

freefall_junkie

There seem to be quite a few new 'gravel grinder' bikes from the States which fit the bill - Specialized Diverge, Jamis Renegade, & the GT grade. All are available with carbon frame/ hydro discs, take mudguards and look like they would make a good winter or commuter bike. I like the look of the GT Grade Ultegra, although both it and the Jamis do seems to have excessively high font ends - a stack of 627mm on a 58 Grade for example.

Mark

stueys

Spesh diverge is a really interesting bike but is spesh plug system again. Though that works well. If you are certain that only going to be used on road than dale synapse is a lovely bike that, I'm fairly certain, takes full guards.

snakedoc

I was told that the Spesh Diverge would take full guards as it had the mounting points for them on the frame so you wouldn't be restricted to the "plug & play" system (as I was interested in the Expert model for use as a (very posh) winter bike)

cattytown

Of the suggestions, the Whyte looks the best match. There are pics here with guards fitted - http://road.cc/content/news/131553-whyt ... isc-brakes

I have noted a couple of posters suggesting a mudguard compatible carbon frame - how would that work with discs as requested? Are there now adapters that will mount the calipers? Are said adapters a good idea on a bike not originally intended for discs?

Paul.

janwal

+1 for the Trek Domane.Just bought the 4.0 and had my mew Ultegra 11 speed swapped onto it.It uses The TRP hy/rd disc brakes.Cable down to the caliper and then hydraulic at the wheel.Works a treat and gives lots of feel.Takes full mudgaurds,which was one of the criteria I needed.You don't need Treks own I use Vavert mudguards http://road.cc/content/review/70517-vav ... guard.I've had the same set on three bikes and they are still in top condition.They have a very discrete appearance.
The Domane is a very comfy bike to ride,perhaps heavier than some but After 300 miles in a month on it, I love it.I have a Ridley Di2 summer bike but I don't know if it will get a look in now !!

itsnotarace

Spent a fair bit of time researching this myself, and my conclusion is "not yet"

My criteria:

Road geometry carbon frame with proper eyelets for full guards. Pref sub 1100g
Full carbon fork, no alu steerer. Again eyelets for full guards. Pref sub 500g
Di2 compatible
Internal routing
Discs (Shimano R785)
Quick releases front and rear

Specialized Diverge comes closest but not available as a frameset which is what I'm really after as I have everything else already, plus it has through axles which limits wheel choice in an already limited choice of disc compatible wheels.

Give it another year and the manufacturers will have cottoned on

meanredspider

itsnotarace wrote:

Spent a fair bit of time researching this myself, and my conclusion is "not yet"

My criteria:

Road geometry carbon frame with proper eyelets for full guards. Pref sub 1100g
Full carbon fork, no alu steerer. Again eyelets for full guards. Pref sub 500g
Di2 compatible
Internal routing
Discs (Shimano R785)
Quick releases front and rear

Specialized Diverge comes closest but not available as a frameset which is what I'm really after as I have everything else already, plus it has through axles which limits wheel choice in an already limited choice of disc compatible wheels.

Give it another year and the manufacturers will have cottoned on

Have you checked out Volagi? I'm pretty sure the Liscio 2 fits those requirements and, I believe, is available as a frameset. I have the original Liscio which is a fabulous bike. In the 2, Volagi have properly adopted Di2 (mine was a conversion I did from the start). I commuted on mine for 3 years in anything other than ice. There's a UK dealer now too.

http://www.volagi.com/shop/ultegra-di2-hydraulic-bike/

itsnotarace

I hadn't, but it does seem to tick all my boxes! Thanks MRS With full guards fitted what size tyres can you run? Will 28's fit?