What one? Commencal, orange, whyte

axeman3d

Hi guys,
Looking at buying one of thes what do you think is the best option?

Cheers

Commencal am ht essential

RAME / 2015 META HT AM 650B, alloy 6061 triple butted, Top tube hidden cable path, Tapered headtube

FORK / MARZOCCHI 350 R, 650b, tapered, travel 150mm, 15mm axle

HEADSET / Semi integrated, tapered ZS44/56, 1’’1/8 race crown, ball retainer

STEM / ALPHA, Alloy 2014 Forged, 60mm, O° rise, Ø31,8mm

BAR / ALPHA, Alloy 6061 double butted, 20mm rise, 750mm, Ø31,8mm

GRIPS / COMMENCAL lock on, Ø30mm, soft compound, Neon Yellow logo

BRAKES / SRAM DB3 180mm/180mm, with matchmaker

SHIFTERS / SRAM X5 2x9 spd

FRONT MECH / SRAM X5 high direct mount 2 spd

REAR MECH / SRAM X5 9 spd

BOTTOM BRACKET / ISIS BB 68mm, sealed bearings

CRANKS / ALPHA Forged 2x9, 22/36 t, 170mm on S, 175mm on M/L/XL CHAIN / Yaban 9 spd ALPHA Forged 2x9, 22/36 t, 170mm on S, 175mm on M/L/XL

CASSETTE / SRAM PG950 11-34 t

RIMS / ALPHA 650B 32H double wall, 24,5mm, pin joint

HUBS / ALPHA 32h, loose ball light version,

SPOKES / light Quick Release skewer Spoke Steel 1,8mm black - nipple brass 12mm black

TIRES / Front : MAXXIS Ardent 2.4, 60 Tpi, Kevlar Bead, Rear : MAXXIS Ardent 2.25, 60TPi, Kevlar Bead, EXO sidewalls

SEATPOST / KINDSHOCK Eten, 100mm travel, Ø31,6mm, 385mm, KGP lever

SADDLE / COMMENCAL Meta AM by Velo, Crmo rails

ACCESSORIES / Chainstay protector

SIZES / S/M/L/XL

COLOUR / Yellow Neon/Black or Full Black, Mattfinish





Orange crush.


Frame & Fork

Tubeset: 6061-T6 Double Butted Aluminium Tube

Swingarm: QR Axle

Fork: Rockshox Revelation RL 140mm 27.5


Rear Shock: N/A


Headset: Cane Creek 49mm For Tapered Steerer


Drivetrain

Crankset: Raceface Ride Double 24-32T Bash

Front Mech: Shimano Deore

Rear Mech: Shimano SLX Shadow +

Cassette: Shimano HG62 10spd 11-36T

Shifters: Shimano Deore

Bottom Bracket: Raceface


Wheels & Tyres

Wheelset: Formula DC71/Shimano 525 + Alex MD23

Tyres: Maxxis Ardent 2.25 x 27.5

Braking

Brakes: Shimano M445


Finishing Kit

Stem: Raceface Ride

Handlebar: Raceface Ride Riser 740mm

Grips: Strange Lock-On


Saddle: Orange SDG Falcon 2015 Chromo


Seatpost: Raceface Ride


Seat Clamp:Strange QR


Pedals: Flat Black


Whyte 901
Frame 6061 Hydro Formed T6 Aluminium, Custom Drawn and Multi Butted, Tapered Headtube, Get A Grip seat clamp system, Internal Stealth Reverb routing
Forks RockShox Sektor Gold 27.5" Lock-out, Maxle Light 130mm Travel, Solo Air, Adjustable Compression and Rebound, Tapered Steerer
Rear shocks N/A
Wheels Whyte Trail 21 Offset Disc rim, 32 Hole
Tyres Maxxis Ardent, 27.5" X 2.25" 60TPI Folding Front, Maxxis Ardent Race, 27.5" X 2.2" 60TPI Folding Rear
Shifters SRAM X-5, 10 Speed
Front Deraileur SRAM X-5, 10 Speed
Rear Deraileur SRAM X-7 Type 2 Medium Cage, 10 Speed, Custom Green
Crank SRAM FC S1000, GXP, 38-24, 10 Speed, Double Compact
Casette SRAM PG-1020, 11-36, 10 Speed
Pedals None
Saddle Whyte Custom, Triple Panel Design
Seat Post Whyte 20mm Offset, 30.9mm x 400mm, 6061 Alloy, 2 Bolt Clamp
Handle Bars Whyte Custom 6061 Alloy, Low Rise, 750mm Wide
Stem Whyte Gravity Stem, 60mm S/M, 70mm L, 80mm XL
Headset FSA No. 57B Orbit ZS, Sealed Cartridge Bearing 1.5" Lower, 1 1.8" Caged Upper Bearings
Brake Set Avid DB 3, 180mm Rotor

rockmonkeysc

Depends on prices.

axeman3d

The commencal is £1000!the others are 1200

oxocube1

Personally, out of the three, I would go with the Orange Crush as it has the best Fork and runs Shimano brakes/drivetrain instead of the SRAM that the others have.

rockmonkeysc

I would go for the Commencal.
£200 cheaper than the Orange and I would rather have the Marzocchi 350 than a Revelation. The new Marzocchis are so well damped and they aren't as flexy as a Revelation.

axeman3d

Thanks, ill keep you posted.. I think the commencal is in the lead but i have just looked at the nukeproof scout as well... Decisions decisions...


Cheers

Lewis A

It also has a dropper, which the more expensive ones lack...

supersonic

There is no low speed compression damping in the R though. I'd take a look at this too:

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/CBOO456CDEO ... ntain-bike

axeman3d

Thanks, really thought about getting on-one but not sure, also 650b is the wheel size i would like, what do people think of the 45650b? Cant find any reviews on them!

Cheers

rockmonkeysc

Heavy and "agricultural" frame.

supersonic

The carbon frame is only three pounds though! Well just over. the steel ones are two pounds on that at least.

rigidebiker

Hello, what decided you? and what was your experience? I'm in a similar situation, but I think only acquire the commencal frame and assemble for parts, or buy all because I think the Fork Marzocchi 350 R it's very good. Or not???
I do not understand why this model (Marzocchi 350 R) is for sale with 160mm travel and with commençal is 150mm .. ??? greeting

The Rookie

A frame is designed for a particular travel, more is not always better, that's why!

Much better frames available for less than the Commi....

rockmonkeysc

rigidebiker wrote:

I do not understand why this model (Marzocchi 350 R) is for sale with 160mm travel and with commençal is 150mm .. ??? greeting

Because maybe that's the length that works best with this frame. I have a Marzocchi 350cr which I have dropped to 140mm which is spot on for my frame.