The Ryder cup ***may contain American Spoilers***

pinno

We're up, we're up, we're up.

Roll on highlights on Beeb 2 at nine.

arran77

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

Stevo_666

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

So it's golf, this Ryder Cup thing? Thought it was footy as Fergie was giving some team a pep talk the other day.

pinno

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

I haven't got time for golf unfortunately. In this area I am in reach of 7 Courses in less than 30 miles. All cheap as chips to play on which is why golf in Scotland isn't the poshy game it is down south. Even the unemployed play golf here!

city_boy

Stevo 666 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

So it's golf, this Ryder Cup thing? Thought it was footy as Fergie was giving some team a pep talk the other day.

Any evidence this has had an effect? Anyone been theatrically throwing themselves to the ground or aggressively haranguing the match officials?

tlw1

pinarello001 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

I haven't got time for golf unfortunately. In this area I am in reach of 7 Courses in less than 30 miles. All cheap as chips to play on which is why golf in Scotland isn't the poshy game it is down south. Even the unemployed play golf here!

Is V68 allowed to cycle on them?

pblakeney

Garcia was useless in 2008 apparently.

Well done Faldo for boosting confidence during this tournament.

#sarcasm#

Mikey23

been watching all day... more about whupping the yanks than the actual golf

ballysmate

pinarello001 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

I haven't got time for golf unfortunately. In this area I am in reach of 7 Courses in less than 30 miles. All cheap as chips to play on which is why golf in Scotland isn't the poshy game it is down south. Even the unemployed play golf here!

Some sort of socialist paradise?
Down here, they have to sign on and look for work.

mr_goo

Ballysmate wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

I haven't got time for golf unfortunately. In this area I am in reach of 7 Courses in less than 30 miles. All cheap as chips to play on which is why golf in Scotland isn't the poshy game it is down south. Even the unemployed play golf here!

Some sort of socialist paradise?
Down here, they have to sign on and look for work.

The English tax payer subsidising the Scottish. Yet again. No wonder they voted to stay part of the union.

On a Ryder cup note. I expect a big fight back from the Yanqis today.

capt_slog

Mikey23 wrote:

been watching all day... more about whupping the yanks than the actual golf

yup.

I don't care if Europe wins or not, but i do like to see USA lose

pblakeney

Capt Slog wrote:

Mikey23 wrote:

been watching all day... more about whupping the yanks than the actual golf

yup.

I don't care if Europe wins or not, but i do like to see USA lose

Good day then?

tlw1

PBlakeney wrote:

Capt Slog wrote:

Mikey23 wrote:

been watching all day... more about whupping the yanks than the actual golf

yup.

I don't care if Europe wins or not, but i do like to see USA lose

Good day then?

yep

veronese68

matthew h wrote:

pinarello001 wrote:

arran77 wrote:

Didn't have you down as a golfer Pina :shock:

I haven't got time for golf unfortunately. In this area I am in reach of 7 Courses in less than 30 miles. All cheap as chips to play on which is why golf in Scotland isn't the poshy game it is down south. Even the unemployed play golf here!

Is V68 allowed to cycle on them?

No, he'd get told off :twisted: .

pinno

They were thrashed senseless and the fall out has already started in the US camp.

mr_goo

Big Phil didn't pull any punches at the post match press conference. Openly scathing of Tom Watson's captaincy, followed by a five mile stare as Watson responded to the comments. I don't think the US team was a happy camp. But then the US has always been 12 individuals thrown together, whereas the Europeans are more of a family even on tour.

bianchimoon

Mr Goo wrote:

Big Phil didn't pull any punches at the post match press conference. Openly scathing of Tom Watson's captaincy, followed by a five mile stare as Watson responded to the comments. I don't think the US team was a happy camp. But then the US has always been 12 individuals thrown together, whereas the Europeans are more of a family even on tour.

Loved the quote about" Michelson 'Loser, Loser captain abuser".. how can anyone pick on Watson , he's like everyones favourite grandad. Watson's response to Michelson was just as you'd expect from a gentleman.

mr_goo

bianchimoon wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Big Phil didn't pull any punches at the post match press conference. Openly scathing of Tom Watson's captaincy, followed by a five mile stare as Watson responded to the comments. I don't think the US team was a happy camp. But then the US has always been 12 individuals thrown together, whereas the Europeans are more of a family even on tour.

Loved the quote about" Michelson 'Loser, Loser captain abuser".. how can anyone pick on Watson , he's like everyones favourite grandad. Watson's response to Michelson was just as you'd expect from a gentleman.

I think Big Phil has lost quite a lot of admirers/followers, with what he did, only 1 HOUR after losing. I have read this morning that he traveled to Gleneagles separately from the team. He has a history of this. So perhaps that tells us all something about his commitment to the team.
Tom Watson is the ultimate pro and gentlemen unlike some of the current crop of US golf stars.

Monkeypump

Mr Goo wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Big Phil didn't pull any punches at the post match press conference. Openly scathing of Tom Watson's captaincy, followed by a five mile stare as Watson responded to the comments. I don't think the US team was a happy camp. But then the US has always been 12 individuals thrown together, whereas the Europeans are more of a family even on tour.

Loved the quote about" Michelson 'Loser, Loser captain abuser".. how can anyone pick on Watson , he's like everyones favourite grandad. Watson's response to Michelson was just as you'd expect from a gentleman.

I think Big Phil has lost quite a lot of admirers/followers, with what he did, only 1 HOUR after losing. I have read this morning that he traveled to Gleneagles separately from the team. He has a history of this. So perhaps that tells us all something about his commitment to the team.
Tom Watson is the ultimate pro and gentlemen unlike some of the current crop of US golf stars.

Agreed. Hardly gracious in defeat, was he? Why not just accept they got beaten by a better team (again)?

pinno

Mr Goo wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Big Phil'''

Loved the...

Tom Watson is the ultimate pro and gentlemen unlike some of the current crop of US golf stars.

I always remember the hysteria after America won and Olazabal was left holding his club whilst there were Americans wooping and shouting whilst he still had a shot to play. I'll also always remember Payne Stewart going against the grain and being quite the gentleman in the face of that debacle. Pity he died in a plane crash but that gracious American is now hard to find and T Watson has been a great ambassador for the sport.
The consensus amongst my clients across Dumfries and Galloway is that it's all sour grapes.

pblakeney

pinarello001 wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

bianchimoon wrote:

Mr Goo wrote:

Big Phil'''

Loved the...

Tom Watson is the ultimate pro and gentlemen unlike some of the current crop of US golf stars.

I always remember the hysteria after America won and Olazabal was left holding his club whilst there were Americans wooping and shouting whilst he still had a shot to play. I'll also always remember Payne Stewart going against the grain and being quite the gentleman in the face of that debacle. Pity he died in a plane crash but that gracious American is now hard to find and T Watson has been a great ambassador for the sport.
The consensus amongst my clients across Dumfries and Galloway is that it's all sour grapes.

Neither gracious in victory, or defeat.

mr_goo

I reckon that the ultra-partizan atmosphere of the Ryder cup, and the advent of USAs' ungentlemanly attitude to winning and losing started in 1991 at Kiawah Island.

Below is an article taken off the interweb

After accusing each other of cheating at The Belfry in 1989, the feud between Seve Ballesteros and Paul Azinger escalated at the Kiawah Island Golf Resort in 1991. Azinger said, "I can tell you we're not trying to cheat." Ballesteros replied, "Oh no. Breaking the rules and cheating are two different things." The constant goading intensified their desire to win and with their partners, José María Olazábal and Chip Beck respectively, they produced what is regarded as the best pairs match in history, with the Spaniards winning 2 & 1. The match also received the sobriquet "the War on the Shore" after some excitable advertising in the American media, and Corey Pavin added to the frenzy by sporting a Desert Storm baseball cap during the event.

Another interesting article from Golf Digest
http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-tours-news/2012-08/1991-ryder-cup-at-kiawah




That for me is where some of the bad blood started.

pblakeney

Mr Goo wrote:

....Azinger said, "I can tell you we're not trying to cheat." ....

Something that comes naturally?