Where's the weight difference?

larkim
larkim Posts: 2,485
edited September 2014 in MTB buying advice
2013/14 Voodoo Bantu 15.2kg - http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/m ... 14-18#tab2
2014 Decathlon RR 520 13.4kg - http://www.decathlon.co.uk/rockrider-52 ... ctFeatures

Clearly the Bantu is cheaper, so you'd probably expect heavier - but nearly 2kg? I know the 13.4kg is quoted in the S size and without pedals for the 520, but the larger frame would add, say 200g, and the pedals 400g (?) you're still talking a good weight difference between the two. Really?

(I'm buying for SWMBO, and to be honest the Bantu looks to do everything right - except for the weight - and I'd rather pay nearer £300 than nearer £400 otherwise she'll end up with the most expensive bike in the family!!)
2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)

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  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The Decathlon website is messing me about right now, but from memory the 520 has Raidon forks, that's about half a kilo difference from the XCR on the Hoodoo, plus the RR has slightly better (lighter) brakes.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Innova 26 x 2.1 tyres
    Could be monsters! Hard to say. But I bet they ain't light.
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  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Cheers - but the fork is the same (Suntour XCR - though 120mm on the Bantu vs the 520). I've no doubt that the 520 is probably the better buy, but I'm being stingy! Plus, at £370, I then really have to consider the Calibre too, and I haven't got time to get to a Go Outdoors place as well!
    2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
    2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
    2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
    2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
    2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
    2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    The Bantu is more trail orientated than the 520 which is more XC orientated, that would be my main driver for choice there.

    Just spotted that RR claim a frame weight of 1.9Kg, having weighed one I know a Bantu frame is about 2.15Kg in 18" trim.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • larkim
    larkim Posts: 2,485
    Cheers. Never really understood the finer points of XC vs Trail for non-expert users to be honest, but if you're saying that the RR is designed to be lighter and nimbler, then I guess that does make reluctant sense for SWMBO!
    2015 Canyon Nerve AL 6.0 (son #1's)
    2011 Specialized Hardrock Sport Disc (son #4s)
    2013 Decathlon Triban 3 (red) (mine)
    2019 Hoy Bonaly 26" Disc (son #2s)
    2018 Voodoo Bizango (mine)
    2018 Voodoo Maji (wife's)
  • The Rookie
    The Rookie Posts: 27,812
    edited September 2014
    A Trail hardtail will have slightly more travel, slightly shallower head angle and a slightly higher front end relative to an XC bike, you can do this on an XC bike by going from 100 to 120mm forks and maybe a slight rise on the bars. minor differences with a lot of overlap though.
    Currently riding a Whyte T130C, X0 drivetrain, Magura Trail brakes converted to mixed wheel size (homebuilt wheels) with 140mm Fox 34 Rhythm and RP23 suspension. 12.2Kg.
  • njee20
    njee20 Posts: 9,613
    They're marketing terms, one company's XC is another's trail.

    XC conjures images of lycra and shaved legs, which people don't like, so trail is a way to make it sounds hip and cool. Bikes may be shorter, taller at the front, but frankly all bikes are going that way anyway, >700mm bars and 120mm forks aren't uncommon on full on XC race bikes these days anyway.

    There are no defined differences.

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