More info about Contador's leg injury

tsincognito

Shamelessly stolen from gabriele over at inrng. If posted already, feel free to shitbin...

http://www.marca.com/2014/09/11/ciclism ... 1410525751

Info provided by Contador's doctor and beware, some graphic pictures of Contador's leg infection.

In addition the article goes on to state that Contador suffered a fracture in tibial plateua and also issues with tendons in his knee, specifically the rotulian tendon. Makes his Vuelta performance even more impressive now.

tonyf34

Pah, did you actually see the size of it on his leg..a serious 'gash' they called it..As for the stitching, christ I've seen better stitching in the field (that's battle wound dressing to you)
Funny how it didn't look anything as bad in this photo http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BshuUPQIcAAmmmo.jpg:medium and the intial pad the doc put on wasn't that big either.
they said it got infected, did they not even bother to clean the wound at any point or inject around/in it'..jesus what a fuss over nothing.
no wonder his performances have been at such a high level, can't see anything that would keep him off the bike at all. Just dropped out cos he was getting his booty handed to him.
Seems like they are trying too hard to justify his 'injury' and make him out to be some superman for getting back on a bike within 5 days for a 'fracture' so tiny it wasn't even worth mentioning..as for 'broken leg' hahaha..well done you, here's a blue peter badge for you Bertie..no really :roll:

morstar

I think Ff's nemesis has surfaced! That post is as unreasonably anti Contador as FF's pro Contador garbage.

frenchfighter

He needs to write properly first.

danlikesbikes

Role on the next 10 pages....

Mods can we have new rule for pro race that posters have in their sig they are either for/against

Sky
Brad
Froome
Doping
Bertie &/or his injury
FF (no offence FF just I know you come in for some flack for your posts but I'm not having a go)

Only joking, but his injury does not seem to have been as bad as reported, but as per the last several threads on this subject there was perhaps some lost in translation moments & the press picked up on the broken leg/superhuman athlete part of the storey.

morstar

frenchfighter wrote:

He needs to write properly first.

Point taken. But...

You would say that.

frisbee

Did he pop into Dr Frankenstein's castle to get that stitched up?

rick_chasey

tonyf34 wrote:

Pah, did you actually see the size of it on his leg..a serious 'gash' they called it..As for the stitching, christ I've seen better stitching in the field (that's battle wound dressing to you)
Funny how it didn't look anything as bad in this photo http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BshuUPQIcAAmmmo.jpg:medium and the intial pad the doc put on wasn't that big either.
they said it got infected, did they not even bother to clean the wound at any point or inject around/in it'..jesus what a fuss over nothing.
no wonder his performances have been at such a high level, can't see anything that would keep him off the bike at all. Just dropped out cos he was getting his booty handed to him.
Seems like they are trying too hard to justify his 'injury' and make him out to be some superman for getting back on a bike within 5 days for a 'fracture' so tiny it wasn't even worth mentioning..as for 'broken leg' hahaha..well done you, here's a blue peter badge for you Bertie..no really :roll:

tonyf34

frenchfighter wrote:

He needs to write properly first.

lol, please do expand on that, I'm amused you bothered to respond
The simple fact is Contador and his team have made a mountain out of a mole hill. There is the tiniest of 'fractures' and a bad cut that have either being not treated correctly (micturate poor stitching/not addressing potential for infection) which is almost unthinkable, OR there's some exaggeration in them photos?
Either scenario wouldn't mean time off the bike for a proffessional, or it shouldn't aside from a few days rest. The overexaggerated bandage on Contador's leg when he was resting up was hilarious, as if they felt the need to make the point of a serious injury for some reason? Was that to lure others into thinking he was not going to be up to much IF he did enter the Vuelta, pretty sad if it was, even sadder if fellow professionals fell for it.. 8)

That many have fallen for the Contador superhuman comeback even down to making an announcement by the attending physician that he has never seen anyone recover so quickly is all rather lame and trying to hard to further big up their..sorry 'your' man 8) it is even more amusing than your uneducated ripost..sorry that should read simple as clearly sentence structure and counter arguement are not your forte it would appear or have you got more in the tank?

guycanby

Just to put the tibial fracture story into some type of perspective, my last patient with a small tibial plateau fracture was using crutches for 4 weeks. They certainly couldnt have cycled due to the pain and swelling for at least 6. The interesting thing is that the fracture was undiagnosed for two weeks as it was so small although there was significant pain on weightbearing and considerable swelling. Senor Contadore must indeed be superhuman, or the kindest thing you can say is that he was misdiagnosed. Perhaps his doctors don't have as much expertise in orthopaedics as they do in other fields of medicine.

thomthom

Didn't the guy who treated his injury say weeks ago that it was a micro-fracture that only required 5 days of complete rest...? And yes, that's makes Alberto's "I will be riding trying to get a stage win"-video pre Vuelta a bit cringeworthy.

frenchfighter

Ten days after the incident, doctors in Lugano examined Contador’s wound and ruled him out of the Vuelta, but he sought a second opinion from medics at the Cemtro Clinic in Madrid.

“I called Dr. Manuel Leyes and he sent someone from his team, César Flores, who put together a sort of surgery in my home. He opened the wound on my knee again and cleaned it,” Contador said. “I could only have an anaesthetic around it but not in the wound itself, so I had to put a sock in my mouth because of the pain."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contado ... f-the-pain

lostboysaint

I bet you got just a little moist posting that up didn't you.

RichN95.

Why would he be having ad hoc surgery at home? He's not a gangster who's been shot. This whole story is nonsense to me.

frenchfighter

Are you serious? You never heard of Dr's coming to people's houses when moving them is counter productive to recovery or close to impossible?

andyp

He had a cut knee ffs, not some life threatening condition.

guycanby

Five days complete rest would be a better fit with a wound infection. I think we can probably say that the fracture story was a cover, perhaps for a sudden (and understandable) loss of Bertie's competitive spirit at the Tour?

adr82

frenchfighter wrote:

Are you serious? You never heard of Dr's coming to people's houses when moving them is counter productive to recovery or close to impossible?

Yes, but you can't have it both ways - if his injury was serious enough that moving him was not advisable or "close to impossible", that totally contradicts his speedy recovery and subsequent performance in the Vuelta. As Rich says, it doesn't really make sense. You don't treat someone with a serious injury outside a hospital unless you have a really good reason. The simple and obvious explanation for home treatment would be that the injury wasn't very serious at all.

guycanby

If it was purely a matter of controlling an infection, then treatment at home might be preferable, away from all those resistant bugs in hospital, and it could mean that he could get back on his bike fairly quickly once the infection is under control. If he have a really deep cut and you didnt control the infection well, then riding in the Vuelta would have been seriously in doubt. So the potential for the infection to be serious was there. It still doesnt look like (with hindsight) a fracture.

frenchfighter

Well he is not using the nhs, so if he pays for a DR to come to his location then I guess that is fine. Either you or Rich know the Spanish healthcare system well enough to know if this is highly unusual? Do you think if a billionaire was in a lot of pain (or even moderate pain) he would take a trip to the hospital or get someone to come to him? As far as I understand from that quote, he was in terrible pain from the work they guy was doing on his knee rather than the regular pain. I don't think anything is being overblown...it just seems that those that dislike Contador are trying to create some sort of myth or in-human story to fulfill their agenda.

He had a very painful injury that forced him to withdraw from his number one race of the year then lay-up for a couple of weeks. There was not a full break which made recovery better than expected. His determination enabled him to start training and reach an acceptable level of form to enter the Vuelta but without any idea of how it would perform under the extreme stresses of racing, which are not and would not have been replicated in training. Having an incredible form going into the Tour and being the best stage race rider of his generation he performed better and better and was able to hang on to a small lead of 1min. Nothing in his performance was superb compared to other riders he was just consistently good and clever. Much like many of his wins.

RichN95.

frenchfighter wrote:

Well he is not using the nhs, so if he pays for a DR to come to his location then I guess that is fine. Either you or Rich know the Spanish healthcare system well enough to know if this is highly unusual?

He's a millionaire sportsmen and apparently the best way be to treat such an asset is something akin to battlefield surgery in the Napoleonic Wars. I just hope they gave him a tot of rum first.

Here are the Saxo doctors at work


Mind you having seen the actual stitching it does look like he got the local handyman to do it.

andyrr

One thing I've not seen mentioned re Contador is that I'd have thought that he would have started the Vuelta either very ready to abandon had he started having problems from his injury or he was very, very confident that he was close to full-fitness : no ?
His main target for any year would normally be thought to be to target a win in the TdF - that is unless he came out of this year's TdF thinking that a fully fit Quintana, Froome and Nibali next year (any one else to add to that list ?) as well as the fact that in 2015 he will also be that bit older, meant that he is now doubting his chances for another TdF win ?
If his riding of the Vuelta with a recovering leg-break/fracture could have resulted in damage or delayed recovery then he might be jeopardising his training leading into 2015 ?

bompington

The truth, for all you doubting wiggins-licking Sky fanbois, is that Contador, despite having his leg actually torn off, simply stuck it back on with superglue, whereupon it was miraculously healed as a sign of divine approval. St Pistolero then proceeded to cycle one-legged for the first half of the Vuelta, putting in half a dozen hours of practice each evening, until he was fit enough to push on a bit harder.

Or something like that.

guycanby

andy is right. If he had a fracture to the weight-bearing surface of his knee, then three weeks of grinding day after day in the Vuelta will do no good for his long-term health and would set him up for chronic knee problems (perhaps not ideal for a pro cyclist?). A nasty infection (yes it would be painful and yes if not treated properly it could be very serious and it would be best treated at home) treated effectively fully explains how he was able to be in such good form for the Vuelta. He had clearly been training for some time to keep that condition. There's nothing surprising or suspicious about that is there?
However, I much prefer bompingtons explanation!

Anonymous

They've been tricked somewhere along the lines

blazing_saddles

frenchfighter wrote:

Ten days after the incident, doctors in Lugano examined Contador’s wound and ruled him out of the Vuelta, but he sought a second opinion from medics at the Cemtro Clinic in Madrid.

“I called Dr. Manuel Leyes and he sent someone from his team, César Flores, who put together a sort of surgery in my home. He opened the wound on my knee again and cleaned it,” Contador said. “I could only have an anaesthetic around it but not in the wound itself, so I had to put a sock in my mouth because of the pain."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contado ... f-the-pain

That there was Bertie's mistake. He should have left the sock in.

mfin

The reason there has been discussion about Contador's leg is that he is a bullshitter. I'd imagine a doctor would worry about infection after seeing Contador had covered his leg injury in bullshit.

tailwindhome

frenchfighter wrote:

Ten days after the incident, doctors in Lugano examined Contador’s wound and ruled him out of the Vuelta, but he sought a second opinion from medics at the Cemtro Clinic in Madrid.

“I called Dr. Manuel Leyes and he sent someone from his team, , who put together a sort of surgery in my home. He opened the wound on my knee again and cleaned it,” Contador said. “I could only have an anaesthetic around it but not in the wound itself, so I had to put a sock in my mouth because of the pain."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contado ... f-the-pain

Flores

http://deportecienporcien.blogspot.co.u ... lagro.html

He cleaned the wound.
Contador is a big girl's blouse.

Miracle doc gave him an ice cream to make his boo-hoo all better.

frenchfighter

Haha, tell that to a rider who rides for 20mins after a fracture.

phreak

He's no Shin Fujimoto is he?

mfin

frenchfighter wrote:

Haha, tell that to a rider who rides for 20mins after a fracture.

He's such a lightweight. Geraint rode for 5,000 minutes after a fracture. A whole TDF.

So he is 0.4% the man that G is. Fact.