Garmin 810 or 1000

paulieb2006

An upgrading my Garmin 800 and was wondering if its worth my while going from the 800 to the 810 or should I spend the extra few £ and get the 1000.
Any opinions would be welcome.
Paul

drlodge

I've got the 800 and don't see any significant benefit to upgrading to either the 810 or 1000. Why do you want to upgrade?

If you are going to bite the bullet, the 810 isn't much of an upgrade, I would go for the 1000 (well I wouldn't...) but at least the 1000 has a few additional features.

slowbike

The only advantage of going 800 to 810 would be for the bluetooth capability.
My wife has the 810 whilst I have the 800, I still plug both into the computer to sync.

drlodge

Slowbike wrote:

The only advantage of going 800 to 810 would be for the bluetooth capability.
My wife has the 810 whilst I have the 800, I still plug both into the computer to sync.

Indeed, you still have to charge it via the cable

slowbike

drlodge wrote:

Slowbike wrote:

The only advantage of going 800 to 810 would be for the bluetooth capability.
My wife has the 810 whilst I have the 800, I still plug both into the computer to sync.

Indeed, you still have to charge it via the cable

However, if you're touring you can always upload your ride via your phone with the 810 (or 1000) without needing to lug a laptop around with you. Such a minor advantage that I won't be replacing the 800 until it's dead (or stolen)


Ah - actually there's another benefit from the 810 and I assume the 1000 - if you do different sorts of rides then you can have a different set of data/map screens with fields specific to your activity.
Quite handy if you do a mix of commute (don't need anything), strava hunting (lap speed), touring (maps, distance, distance to go, POI's are handy), TTs (speed,power,HR, time), Mountain Biking (where's the nearest tree to crash into) etc etc ...

drlodge

Slowbike wrote:

However, if you're touring you can always upload your ride via your phone with the 810 (or 1000) without needing to lug a laptop around with you. Such a minor advantage that I won't be replacing the 800 until it's dead (or stolen)

Yes that is a slight advantage as you say. When going on holiday, I "lug" my chromebook around for this reason, but its a lot lighter than a laptop and I would lug it around anyway for browsing the web (perhaps tethered to my mobile phone ;-)).

My 800 has given me zero problems, people I've known with an 810 have had loads of trouble. Not heard so many teething issues with the 1000.

slowbike

I could lug my netbook around - but on the last ride (Dieppe to Paris) - keeping weight down I took a kindle and my iPhone ... that with USB chargers and my 800 meant I didn't upload my rides until I got back a few days later - no issue. My wife was able to upload her rides each day (Three feel at home = unlimited data in France.... )

Now we've got used to the idiosyncrasies of the 810 in stopping and starting rides (press stop, don't hit save or discard, then you can start again to continue the ride, power off between if you like - but don't power off anywhen because your ride will be discarded ... ) we've had no issue with the 810. The stop/start/pause/discard ride is probably the worst feature Garmin have coded in ...

StillGoing

Got an 810 and never had a problem with its operation. Had a problem with the Livetrack function but that wasn't an 810 issue only and that has now been fixed for all models. There are plenty of 800 owners who have posted on forums whining about faults with their device just as there are for every other model Garmin has produced. Some are valid, most are bollox.

As for having to plug an 810 in to charge it; I've yet to hear of a Garmin device that doesn't need plugging in to charge it. Rides are automatically uploaded to Connect and Strava without having to plug into a PC and routes can be downloaded without the need to plug into a PC. It takes little to no time to charge a device by plugging it into the wall.

Buy the 1000 over the 810 if you want a larger screen, improved imaging, screen phone alerts (but not the ability to read or answer them), segment alerts and a couple of other things such as additional satellite fixing.

meanredspider

I've had the 1000 to replace my 800. I loved the screen. But nothing worked so I sent it back. And the battery life was shocking (8 hours at very best). I'm back to my 800 and I'm not missing the 1000. Before you think about ordering one, go to the Garmin support forums and see what people are saying about the issues now.

jgarpotter

I took my 810 touring, the first 3 days it was fine, it then started to crash multiple times a day (the most it crashed on one day was 8.), until it finally 'bricked' itself - stuck on loading maps, before I could upload any of the data. Meaning that I lost all my data, and was, at the time, completely stranded.

Sent it back to Wiggle and have since received a full refund.

northpole

My golden rule with Garmin bike devices is that if you can get it to work reliably, do not change it. Went through grief with my 705 and then with the 800. Fortunately it got sorted by firmware upgrades (the 705 remains buried in a drawer someplace!). Garmin have history releasing new products prior to sorting out significant glitches. I don't see the 810 as an upgrade for my needs and I'll get the 1000 when I've convinced myself it isn't a bug ridden prototype. Probably in a year from now. Just my opinion of course.

Peter

kingstonian

stupid question - does the 810 come with a European maps package already loaded?

StillGoing

Kingstonian wrote:

stupid question - does the 810 come with a European maps package already loaded?

No it doesn't, but there are various outlets allowing you to get the maps cheaper than Garmin sell them.

jgarpotter

Kingstonian wrote:

stupid question - does the 810 come with a European maps package already loaded?

No, but you can the entire of Europe for free, go here for instructions http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/05/down ... 00810.html

And if you want to download Europe without picking the sections go here:

http://www.openfietsmap.nl/downloads/europe

Bar Shaker

The 1000 comes with built in Europe maps and wonderful map resolution. The screen is a joy to look at.

For the sake of the cost difference, the 1000 should be your first choice.