Rosberg - Hamilton... really?

debeli

This smacks to me of a sport with enormous coverage that fears a repeat of the later Schumacher/Ferrari years, when the seasons became a one-car yawnfest.

The only way to garner interest is to maximise publicity for the spat between the Mercedes boys.

Does anyone really care?

Monkeypump

Debeli wrote:

This smacks to me of a sport with enormous coverage that fears a repeat of the later Schumacher/Ferrari years, when the seasons became a one-car yawnfest.

The only way to garner interest is to maximise publicity for the spat between the Mercedes boys.

Does anyone really care?

Yes, of course people care. Silly question, isn't it?

negativelycra

I'd say that the spat is real. Media hyping it as always, but put 2 roosters in a henhouse, you're going to have a spat.

Just look what happened at Sky with Wiggo and Froome...

VTech

I think you have totally misunderstood the goings on. As Negativelycra said, its real alright.

You have two of the finest drivers on earth whom both want the crown of world champion. Lewis has only 1 title when he was destined to have many more by his age and Rosberg is trying to get his first.
In this years grid you only have around 12 drivers who are there on merit so its a very tight nit fraternity for those wanting to be the best (or those with the ability).

This year is going to be incredibly interesting, I still think Lewis will take the crown but he does have a tough job as Rosberg is an awesome driver and won't let the points slip without a fight.

secretsam

VTech wrote:

This year is going to be incredibly interesting

Nothing about Formula 1 is interesting. It's as dull as crown green bowls. As for putting it on the radio...words fail me.

mamba80

VTech wrote:

I think you have totally misunderstood the goings on. As Negativelycra said, its real alright.

You have two of the finest drivers on earth whom both want the crown of world champion. Lewis has only 1 title when he was destined to have many more by his age and Rosberg is trying to get his first.
In this years grid you only have around 12 drivers who are there on merit so its a very tight nit fraternity for those wanting to be the best (or those with the ability).

This year is going to be incredibly interesting, I still think Lewis will take the crown but he does have a tough job as Rosberg is an awesome driver and won't let the points slip without a fight.

It was pretty obvious that R used his wing to puncture H's rear tyre, a calculated bit of driving for sure but no worse than has gone on during other years, this is on the same team though!
I don't think Lewis has got a cat in hells chance, to far behind now, so unless the team scupper him, its Rosbergs to lose.
As for whether folk care or not? well the OP does or he wouldn't have posted

VTech

SecretSam wrote:

VTech wrote:

This year is going to be incredibly interesting

Nothing about Formula 1 is interesting. It's as dull as crown green bowls. As for putting it on the radio...words fail me.

Its one of the most advanced and cutting endue sports on the planet, I find your post one of the "oddest" I've ever read.

Monkeypump

F1 is a very technical sport, so it's not going to be interesting for everyone. Bernie hasn't done much to make it interesting either. Most of the new tracks (where he has brokered lucrative deals, of course) don't make for the best racing.

When it's good, it's great, but there are very few 'epic' races these days.

As for the title, I can't see Lewis making up 29 points. Will be interesting to see shape the team is in my the end of the season.

debeli

mamba80I wrote:

[ I think you have totally misunderstood the goings on. As Negativelycra said, its real alright.

You have two of the finest drivers on earth whom both want the crown of world champion. Lewis has only 1 title when he was destined to have many more by his age and Rosberg is trying to get his first.
In this years grid you only have around 12 drivers who are there on merit so its a very tight nit fraternity for those wanting to be the best (or those with the ability).

This year is going to be incredibly interesting, I still think Lewis will take the crown but he does have a tough job as Rosberg is an awesome driver and won't let the points slip without a fight.

I do not say it is not a spat, I just query the weight the media (fuelled by F1 PR) attach to it. If so much media attention is taken by a verbal spat, the suggestion is that the racing might be sub-par.

I have a sense that BE is looking for a way to maximise earnings from the last-race double-points shootout scenario...

As to LH being 'destind to have many more' crowns by his age.... Destined how? He is one of many fine drivers. He has had access to fine cars and blown it. He has generally failed to dominate teammates. He has never looked an odds-on world champion, just a very talented and fiery racer. If he had been destined to have many more, he'd have them. That's how destiny works.

VTech wrote:

t was pretty obvious that R used his wing to puncture H's rear tyre, a calculated bit of driving for sure but no worse than has gone on during other years, this is on the same team though!
I don't think Lewis has got a cat in hells chance, to far behind now, so unless the team scupper him, its Rosbergs to lose.
As for whether folk care or not? well the OP does or he wouldn't have posted

I do take an interest in these things and do find them interesting... but I dislike the hype-for-the-sake-of-it about spats and contracts and jealousies and so on. I love to see very fast motor cars racing on a track. It's the other stuff that pales a little... but I see I am just digging an even deeper hole.

I concede the point.

Twice.

tangled_metal

Technology is interesting but the sport isn't. Watching cars go round a track so many times? No way it's anything but dull once you've seen the start and a few laps. Prefer hill climbs or rallying among the motorsports. It does have it's fans though and they're quite loyal.

Jon_1976

The only way to make F1 interesting is to have a one make series. It'll never happen obviously.

The performance difference between the cars makes it dull. The only interesting part is guessing who will have the most dominant car for that season. It was Red Bull for a long time, now its Mercedes. The only constant is Ferrari are always crap.

VTech

Jon_1976 wrote:

The only way to make F1 interesting is to have a one make series. It'll never happen obviously.

The performance difference between the cars makes it dull. The only interesting part is guessing who will have the most dominant car for that season. It was Red Bull for a long time, now its Mercedes. The only constant is Ferrari are always crap.

Ferrari are the most successful team ever to grace F1.

The new engines have made it very interesting and any of you eco warriors out there that think cars cause the earth to decay can thank F1 for the new hybrid technology that wouldn't have come about as quickly were it not for F1.

A 1 make series is a barmy idea, we have that at many levels unto F1 so it exists but not at the top level because people want to see true racing and technology. Red Bull succeeded because of Adrian, he is the world leader in aerodynamics and Mercedes are leading now due to the in house engine/electrics devision.

There is hardly any difference in engine performance these days, even between the very best drivers and the ones at the back of the pack.

Jon_1976

VTech wrote:

Jon_1976 wrote:

The only way to make F1 interesting is to have a one make series. It'll never happen obviously.

The performance difference between the cars makes it dull. The only interesting part is guessing who will have the most dominant car for that season. It was Red Bull for a long time, now its Mercedes. The only constant is Ferrari are always crap.

Ferrari are the most successful team ever to grace F1.

The new engines have made it very interesting and any of you eco warriors out there that think cars cause the earth to decay can thank F1 for the new hybrid technology that wouldn't have come about as quickly were it not for F1.

A 1 make series is a barmy idea, we have that at many levels unto F1 so it exists but not at the top level because people want to see true racing and technology. Red Bull succeeded because of Adrian, he is the world leader in aerodynamics and Mercedes are leading now due to the in house engine/electrics devision.

There is hardly any difference in engine performance these days, even between the very best drivers and the ones at the back of the pack.

Its still pretty boring

VTech

Jon_1976 wrote:

VTech wrote:

Jon_1976 wrote:

The only way to make F1 interesting is to have a one make series. It'll never happen obviously.

The performance difference between the cars makes it dull. The only interesting part is guessing who will have the most dominant car for that season. It was Red Bull for a long time, now its Mercedes. The only constant is Ferrari are always crap.

Ferrari are the most successful team ever to grace F1.

The new engines have made it very interesting and any of you eco warriors out there that think cars cause the earth to decay can thank F1 for the new hybrid technology that wouldn't have come about as quickly were it not for F1.

A 1 make series is a barmy idea, we have that at many levels unto F1 so it exists but not at the top level because people want to see true racing and technology. Red Bull succeeded because of Adrian, he is the world leader in aerodynamics and Mercedes are leading now due to the in house engine/electrics devision.

There is hardly any difference in engine performance these days, even between the very best drivers and the ones at the back of the pack.

Its still pretty boring

Could I ask you to name a sport where more goes on ?

Boring: not interesting, tedious.

Mikey23

Plus one for tedium ... Cant really understand why folks find it remotely interesting. But what do i know, i like cricket...

team47b

'Formula One is seriously boring now'
Sterling Moss

Ouija

Used to be a big F1 nut back in the 80's and 90's, during the Senna, Prost, Mansell years (and to some extent into the early Schumacher/Hill years). Don't watch it at all now. It's all just so tediously dull, dull, dull.

Wheelspinner

team47b wrote:

'Formula One is seriously boring now'
Sterling Moss

Is that Kate Moss's bruvver, or did you mean (Sir) Stirling Moss?

team47b

Wheelspinner wrote:

team47b wrote:

'Formula One is seriously boring now'
Sterling Moss

Is that Kate Moss's bruvver, or did you mean (Sir) Stirling Moss?

iPad spelling :oops:

dhobiwallah

VTech wrote:

Could I ask you to name a sport where more goes on ?

Really depends what you mean by 'more goes on'....

Millions of pounds spent on development - why not watch apple/samsung court cases if that is what really floats your boat.

As a casual spectator of most sports it is pretty dull to watch. I don't deny that those at the top are really talented, passionate and dedicated, like they are in any sport, but the odd crash or impressive overtake manoeuvre do not make several hours of great sport to me.

In answer to your question more goes on during a women's basketball game, it is end to end every few seconds - but you sure as hell wouldn't find me watching that...

verylonglegs

Snooker and Boxing now look to the 80's and 90's as a golden era when it's participants were household names and F1 is now heading in the same direction. It's not quite there yet but it's difficult to see it turning it around. It suffers from being too technical now if anything with attention spans of the general populous getting shorter. A sport where you need to understand hybrid engines and strategy regarding tyre compounds and pit-stops is in real danger of sliding into insignificance beyond recovery.

rick_chasey

Whoever said all drivers using the same car was good has obviously never watched A1 racing which was exactly that.

Big rule changes often leave the grid with one team dominating.

That'll narrow next year.

I've found the quality of racing to be pretty good over the last 5 years.

VTech

Mercedes will find it more difficult to dominate for as long as Red Bull have just done.
I think Honda will stir up a hornets nest but the new engines will come alive as they are fully understood.

Jon_1976

I read Rosberg was getting booed again on the podium. I'm sure he's gutted :roll:

arran77

Debeli wrote:

Does anyone really care?

No, never have done and after yesterday little shenanigans it all sounds like a complete fix anyway :roll: