Storck Scenero G2 F22

irishyop

Hi,
Looking at getting a new bike, I'm a club cyclist, planned on racing this year but had a back operation so I am just getting back on the road.
I have a 9 year old Merida, full carbon, durace, great bike but its aging and creaking a bit.

So now is time to treat myself!

I have really fallen for the Storck and the lads there in S-Tec are offering a great price on this.
http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/ ... tSF22-0004

From what I have read the Scenero G2 gets great reviews and for the price of the kit I can't seem to fit anything to compare with it. Di2 I don't think I will go for, mainly due to the fact I know no one in our club or bike shops that could fix it if it goes wrong.

What concerns me is that I am carrying weight, I HAVE to shift it, sitting around 200lbs (90 kg) and I would be worried I am too "fatty" for the frame and/or wheels.
Also the roads I am ride are not the smoothest, so I though I think it would be fine, I am just a bit concerned that the bike mightn't be "fit" for these roads.

Also lastly, anyone any good or bad experience with S-Tec? They seem v well priced and very responsive on the emails.

Many thanks

ai_1

irishyop wrote:

Hi,
Looking at getting a new bike, I'm a club cyclist, planned on racing this year but had a back operation so I am just getting back on the road.
I have a 9 year old Merida, full carbon, durace, great bike but its aging and creaking a bit.

So now is time to treat myself!

I have really fallen for the Storck and the lads there in S-Tec are offering a great price on this.
http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/ ... tSF22-0004

From what I have read the Scenero G2 gets great reviews and for the price of the kit I can't seem to fit anything to compare with it. Di2 I don't think I will go for, mainly due to the fact I know no one in our club or bike shops that could fix it if it goes wrong.

What concerns me is that I am carrying weight, I HAVE to shift it, sitting around 200lbs (90 kg) and I would be worried I am too "fatty" for the frame and/or wheels.
Also the roads I am ride are not the smoothest, so I though I think it would be fine, I am just a bit concerned that the bike mightn't be "fit" for these roads.

Also lastly, anyone any good or bad experience with S-Tec? They seem v well priced and very responsive on the emails.

Many thanks

I test rode the G1 frame last year - same frame except the cables aren't internal. Lovely looking bike and feels very "solid". It seemed a little harsh on the test ride but to be honest that could just be the tyres, tyre pressure, the roads I test rode it on or how I was feeling on the day, so don't read too much into that. I like the white scheme. I've only seen it in black before!
I can't see your weight being any issue. Just be aware that the head tube is very short in some, if not all sizes, so if you don't want a very aggressive position you may need lots of spacers. I'm pretty sure the frame will take 25mm tyres but it may be worth checking. You may want the option to improve comfort if bad roads you mention do prove to be an issue.

ai_1

irishyop wrote:

Hi,
Looking at getting a new bike, I'm a club cyclist, planned on racing this year but had a back operation so I am just getting back on the road.
I have a 9 year old Merida, full carbon, durace, great bike but its aging and creaking a bit.

So now is time to treat myself!

I have really fallen for the Storck and the lads there in S-Tec are offering a great price on this.
http://s-tec-essence.eshop.t-online.de/ ... tSF22-0004

From what I have read the Scenero G2 gets great reviews and for the price of the kit I can't seem to fit anything to compare with it. Di2 I don't think I will go for, mainly due to the fact I know no one in our club or bike shops that could fix it if it goes wrong.

What concerns me is that I am carrying weight, I HAVE to shift it, sitting around 200lbs (90 kg) and I would be worried I am too "fatty" for the frame and/or wheels.
Also the roads I am ride are not the smoothest, so I though I think it would be fine, I am just a bit concerned that the bike mightn't be "fit" for these roads.

Also lastly, anyone any good or bad experience with S-Tec? They seem v well priced and very responsive on the emails.

Many thanks

Apologies, I wrote a more detailed reply but lost it somehow. Here's the quick version:
I tested a G1 Scenero last year - same frame except for external cables
Looks lovely, felt solid and is very well finished.
It seemes a bit harsh to me on the test ride but this was only 20mins on unfamiliar roads and as set up by the shop so don't read too much into it. It could have just been the tyre type, tyre pressures, how I felt on the day or a combination.
If you're a little heavier than the average racer (like I am) and expect to ride on poor roads I'd check if it has clearance for 25mm tyres. I can't remember if I checked at the time.
The other thing to note if you're buying online is the headtube length. The Scenero has very short head tubes in most if not all sizes. So if you don't like a very aggressive position you'll probably have to use lots of spacers. This was one of the reasons I didn't get it in the end. Based on the top tube lengths I probably would have gone for the 55cm frame but a headtube of 139mm would have left me with at least 25mm of spacers and probably more. At first glance the 51cm frame might have seemed like a possibility too until you spot the 115mm head tube which would have made the fit absurd for me. If you're able to get very low, on the other hand, it could suit you very well.
I ended up waiting 'til this year and getting a Canyon CF SL 9.0

sancho_panza

I bought a Storck Absolutist from S-Tec about three years ago. Brilliant service, shipped to an address in the south of France. They were really helpful with the sizing and all sorts of silly questions I had.

As everything with the bike has subsequently been perfect I've not needed to test any post sales service so can't comment on that. They were happy to take a deposit to reserve the bike until I had all the readies.

That is one seriously beautiful bike! The Cosmics are great for you, perhaps with 25mm tyres. I am not overly impressed with Sram Force but I do think they are constantly revising their designs so maybe the problems have been ironed out. Front mech is temperamental and levers can be awkward in shifting. Perhaps it's my bad luck. Anyway, that is a stonking deal on a lovely bike. Go for it!

Drop me a reply if you have any more questions

irishyop

Thanks for the replies folks, really appreciate that.
Good to hear that people are happy with the service.

With regards the aggressive position, could you explain that pls, not sure what you mean :oops:

I still have back issues so even though I am well used to been on a carbon on 23mm tires, after a couple of hours the back gets a little sore. I dont want that getting worse!

They initially recommended a 57cm frame, but then changed it to a 55cm after I gave them an inside leg measurement.

Ya love the bike, it looks well and the reviews give the ride a great rating.

Thanks

ai_1

When I say an aggressive position I mean very low at the front. So you will likely have a fairly big drop from the saddle to the bars meaning you are more aerodynamic but you may find the position uncomfortable if you're not very flexible and it may aggravates any back or neck problems.
In my case the drop from the top of my saddle to the top of the bars at the stem is about 60-65mm. I think that's reasonably typical for non-competitive cyclists. For me that's achieved on my current bike, a Canyon Ultimate CF SL by using 15mm of spacers on top of a 150mm head tube. The stem is 100mm long and drops 6 degrees if I remember correctly. I wanted the option to drop the bars a little lower later as I was coming from a more upright bike with the bars as low as they'd go and wasn't sure if I'd be able for more drop, happily I think I am and will try it over the winter.
For me, it's my neck that's the limiting factor. My back is fine in a much lower position than I usually use but I have difficulty looking forward without developing severe neck pain after a while.
Most people with a properly fitted bike use some spacers to get the bar height right but you don't want too many. I think a lot of manufacturers suggest a maximum number of spacers because increasing the height from the top bearing to the bars puts more strain on the steerer tube and the bearings. Off the top of my head I think the maximum limits I've seen mentioned have been around 30mm to 40mm but I might be wrong. I don't think 25mm or less is ever a problem.

If you're happy with the position you have on the Merida then I'd suggest using that as the basis for judging the geometry of the bikes you're looking at. Try and find a geometry chart for the bike you've got and compare! If you can't find one then you can always measure your bike although it can be tricky to do so accurately!
Another option is to go to a bike fitter and get them to suggest the geometry you should look for. Top tube length and headtube length are the critical measurements. Alternatively Stack and Reach measurements are essentially a more transferable way of measuring the same thing but not all manufacturers have them on their geometry charts.

The Scenero is a lovely bike so hopefully it'll suit you. But if it doesn't fit well you'll regret buying it. So try not to talk yourself into it!
Hopefully it does suit!

irishyop

Thanks for all the info. Ya I think the fit should be sound... well I hope it is! I did a match up as best I could on the geometry and with the Merida been 9 years old then the shape of bikes have changed and even getting geometry chart wasn't an option!

I have bit the bullet and ordered off them.... I hope I don't regret it!!

Thanks for all the details, appreciate everyones advice.

ai_1

Best of luck. Hope you love it!